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Anti-Japan protests raise doubts over Chinese government's control(LOSING IT?)
Financial Times ^ | 04/17/05 | Geoff Dyer

Posted on 04/18/2005 9:58:47 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

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It is possible that Chinese regime is not in full control.
1 posted on 04/18/2005 9:58:53 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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Ping!


2 posted on 04/18/2005 9:59:20 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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It is possible that Chinese regime is not in full control.

They'll find that out for sure when that House of Cards, called the Chinese economy, collapses.

3 posted on 04/18/2005 10:00:27 AM PDT by dfwgator (Minutemen: Just doing the jobs that American politicians won't do.)
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Another "Boxer Rebellion"?

BTW I recommend the following for insight into the historical competition between forces of centralization and forces of cultic (for lack of a better term) rebellion.


4 posted on 04/18/2005 10:03:42 AM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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OH-HUH?? Another BUSH FAULT? Love it! The RATS are probably soiling their diapers just about now! No matter how much the evil RATS don't want to give W the credit for breaking through the walls of terrorism and dictator-ism, history can't be held back or keep folk in the dark forever!!! God's continual blessing and Favor upon Mr. Bush and all his endeavors!
5 posted on 04/18/2005 10:06:42 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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It is the 2,000 year-old tradition. Between cultic rebellion and recentralization(the fall of an old dynasty and rise of a new one,) usually 2/3 of population were lost(Sui --> Tang, Yuan --> Ming, Ming --> Ching.) Sometimes, over 85%(late Han --> Chin.)

In the mind of Chinese regime, the latest prime suspect with cultic rebellion potential is the Falun Gong. Hence, the brutal suppression.

6 posted on 04/18/2005 10:14:03 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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doubt it...or they'd all be lined up at the local stadium and shot, this is state sponsored, sort of like the daily "2 minute hate" in 1984...allows the "proles" to blow off some tension and steam...


7 posted on 04/18/2005 10:26:48 AM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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The Chinese are directing this. They ARE in control.


8 posted on 04/18/2005 10:27:08 AM PDT by The Raven (Liberalism is a verifiable weapon of mass destruction)
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I agree. This is all directed by the Chinese government.


9 posted on 04/18/2005 10:29:52 AM PDT by OldFriend (MAJOR TAMMY DUCKWORTH.....INSPIRATIONAL)
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Then Japan should be very afraid because that means the anti-Japanese asentiment the way the Greeks and Turks hate each other will be the focus of the emerging China.


10 posted on 04/18/2005 10:31:19 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: MD_Willington_1976

good anology re: 1984.


11 posted on 04/18/2005 10:32:03 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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Maybe it's just me, but I don't understand the seeming intensity here. Are these young crowds really all of a sudden massing and semi rioting this week over Japan's imperial/military record 50 years ago? And some textbook they dug up? Sounds like either the government is in a whole lot of control, or we're looking at a some sort of cultural propensity for exaggerated emotional hysteria.


12 posted on 04/18/2005 10:34:30 AM PDT by truthchaser
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None of these protests surprise me, the local commissar or whatever they are called in China, has most likely delegated less than desireable party members to go out into the streets and stir things up...
13 posted on 04/18/2005 10:35:18 AM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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I think these demos started over China wanting to intimidate the Japanese over the UN security council seat and possible disputes over ocean gas fields.But setting off nationalism is dangerous because it inflames passions and can get out of control.
14 posted on 04/18/2005 10:37:12 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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A nation starts a war in one of two fashions. Either the government decides (for whatever reason) that a war is necessary and then convinces the people to go along or the people desire a war and install a government to meet their demands. In the former situation, the bellicose government may be appeased through diplomatic methods. In the latter situation, diplomacy will not work because it is nearly impossible to negotiate with a mob. If the people are not distracted from their desire to fight (usually by a better economy), then war is inevitable. When that happens, peace will occur only when one side is completely victorious.


15 posted on 04/18/2005 10:38:25 AM PDT by bobjam
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You guys are funny sometimes. This idea is to make the Chinese government look bad, we all know it is a state sponsored protest.


16 posted on 04/18/2005 10:42:14 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn
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You guys are funny sometimes. This idea is to make the Chinese government look bad, we all know it is a state sponsored protest.


17 posted on 04/18/2005 10:42:39 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn
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Good point.

18 posted on 04/18/2005 10:45:51 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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It is also possible that we have two factions in the regime who have different agenda. One try to restrain the protest, and the other to encourage it. Somebody alerted such a possibility to me.

19 posted on 04/18/2005 10:48:55 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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That is an intersting point.


20 posted on 04/18/2005 11:13:59 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn
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