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1 posted on 04/17/2005 12:39:44 AM PDT by NYer
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“the city of seven hills” — Rome - Babylon


47 posted on 04/17/2005 6:15:04 AM PDT by bahblahbah
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Remember that a Pope does not have to be a Cardinal. He could be a Bishop, priest, or layman.


50 posted on 04/17/2005 7:29:08 AM PDT by Eternally-Optimistic (anything is possible)
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Olive Pope?


51 posted on 04/17/2005 8:43:00 AM PDT by JOE6PAK ("Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.")
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Tin foil olives?


55 posted on 04/17/2005 9:00:00 AM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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Peter the Roman

Jimmy the Greek's little brother.

57 posted on 04/17/2005 9:07:47 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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Or, the last passage may be a forgery. It is very different than the other passages, and completely unrelated in style. Aside from Pope John Paul II's uncanny description, most seem preposterous stretches.


58 posted on 04/17/2005 10:06:54 AM PDT by dangus
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The Jesuits are famous for bringing the Olives to the New World. This could be an indicator for the Cardinal from Argentina, who is a Jesuit and his family is from Italy.

Bergoglio, S.J. Jorge Mario
Order in College: Cardinal Priest
With Title: S. Roberto Bellarmino
Native Country: Argentina
Appointed by: John Paul II on 21 February 2001
Ecclesiastical Office: Archbishop of Buenos Aires
Papal Elector: Eligible; Ineligible on 17 December 2016

Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio, S.J., was born on December 17, 1936, in Buenos Aires, Argentina. He was ordained a priest for the Jesuit community on December 13, 1969. He served as novice master in the Theological Faculty of San Miguel. From 1973 to 1979, he served as the Jesuit provincial for Argentina. From 1980 to 1986, he was rector of the Philosophical and Theological Faculty of San Miguel. He completed his doctoral dissertation in Germany and served as confessor and spiritual director in Córdoba. On May 20, 1992, he was appointed titular bishop of Auca and auxiliary bishop of Buenos Aires, and was consecrated on June 27 1992. On June 3, 1997, he was appointed coadjutor archbishop of Buenos Aires, and on February 28, 1998, he succeeded as bishop of Buenos Aires. He also serves as Ordinary for Eastern-Rite faithful in Argentina who lack their own ordinary, and he serves as second vice-president of the Argentine Episcopal Conference. He was created a cardinal on February 21, 2001. His titular church is St. Robert Bellarmine. He continues to serve as Archbishop of Buenos Aires. In the Roman Curia, he serves in the Congregation for the Discipline of the Sacraments, the Congregation for the Clergy, the Congregation for Institutes of Consecrated Life and Societies of Apostolic Life, and in the Council of the Family.

60 posted on 04/17/2005 10:40:50 AM PDT by Fred
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Ole Martini McKennedy may make it at last?


77 posted on 04/17/2005 2:11:47 PM PDT by Waco
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De Gloria Olivae

Cardinal Arinze


79 posted on 04/17/2005 2:42:02 PM PDT by paleocon patriarch ("Never attribute to a conspiracy that which can be explained by incompetence.")
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Bump


82 posted on 04/17/2005 2:56:06 PM PDT by Dustbunny (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist)
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One of the things that makes me skeptical about this prophecy is that I do not see where the Vatican itself is mentioned as being destroyed. Does it say that somewhere that I missed?

The Vatican is not on one of the "seven hills of Rome" that have been referred to throughout history .

The Seven Hills of Rome are east of the Tiber and form the the original city that was (by tradition) to have been founded by Romulus on the Palatine Hill (Collis Palatinus). The other six of the Seven Hills of Rome are the Aventine Hill (Collis Aventinus), the Capitoline Hill (Collis Capitolinus), the Quirinal Hill (Collis Quirinalis), the Viminal Hill (Collis Viminalis), the Esquiline Hill (Collis Esquilinus), and the Caelian Hill (Collis Caelius).

The now-famous Vatican Hill (Collis Vaticanus) is west of the Tiber and is not one of those Seven Hills of Rome. We know, of course, that St. Peter was martyred there (at what is now the Vatican). But, then it was just a hill outside the city. Emperor Nero's circus was at the bottom but Caligula had the circus built and a heliopolis obelisk erected there. Peter was entombed on the hill and the early Christians eventually received permission to mark the spot. Then the Basilica was built there.

Also there are other cities such as Rio de Janeiro and the coastal city of Trivandrum in India, that have been built on seven hills. So, I am not sure the reference to a city of "seven hills," actually means Rome, or that the prophecy means the Vatican will be destroyed.

Are there other references that say this?

86 posted on 04/17/2005 4:19:44 PM PDT by CitizenM ("Rise, let us be on our way" - Pope John Paul, II (noted in Ratzinger's Homily@ PJPII's Requiem ))
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Pope Jackie Mason? Oy vey.

Oh the lines that come to mind.


88 posted on 04/17/2005 4:51:59 PM PDT by lawdude (Liberalism is a mental disease.)
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I've always wondered if the next Pope might be some kind of peacemaker. The olive branch is the traditional Christian symbol of peace and healing. If the pope dedicates his role to ending wars and bringing opposing nations and people together, he may earn the moniker "Glory of the Olives".


89 posted on 04/17/2005 5:03:28 PM PDT by Arthalion
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Have you seen this yet?

http://www.spiritdaily.com/garabandalwarning.htm


97 posted on 04/17/2005 6:18:14 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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Bump for later...


112 posted on 04/18/2005 6:13:37 AM PDT by Chief Inspector Clouseau
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Malachy-watchers had long speculated the “Olive” Pope would come from the Order of Saint Benedict, a branch of which is known as the Olivetans.

The Olivetans are not a branch of the Benedictines.

119 posted on 04/19/2005 1:15:39 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode
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Malachy-watchers had long speculated the “Olive” Pope would come from the Order of Saint Benedict, a branch of which is known as the Olivetans.

The Olivetans are not a branch of the Benedictines.

120 posted on 04/19/2005 1:19:21 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode
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So Ratzinger the one?


122 posted on 04/19/2005 10:14:08 AM PDT by stevio (Let Freedom Ring!)
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Malachy-watchers had long speculated the “Olive” Pope
would come from the Order of Saint Benedict


Pope Benedict XVI
123 posted on 04/19/2005 11:12:52 AM PDT by evets (God bless President Bush and VP Cheney)
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