DCF: Terri Schiavo Not Abused, Exploited

ABC/AP ^ | 4.16.05

[Earthdweller]

Humbly requesting proof of any attack by me because personal attacks always deserve an apology don't you agree?.

Of course you would do the same I assume?

:) :)~

[cyncooper]

Nice dodge. The comment that made me notice your trolling ways was:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1385118/posts?page=546#546

"...Suspect that most of the Death Mongers..."

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So assume a reasonable tone now to cover up for your outrageous commentary earlier. You're fooling nobody.

[cyncooper]

Your attack was deleted.

(probably because you ran crying to the mods about being called a liar and after they deleted my accurate assessment of your post they noticed the post that prompted it)

If people are going to make false accusations against others such as you did and such as you defended, then they can expect to be called liars for bearing false witness.

That is not an attack. But your lies certainly are.

Got that?

[presently no screen name]

I agree w/you - there are some things that we don't know - even about ourselves! LOL

But that doesn't mean some don't know enough to make a wise decision. Humbleness - who is humble, you? me?

I see your slant - by not all of terri's doctors agree w/those that sided w/Terri's family. They weren't siding with anyone - they reported what they found. Why would MS seek out a euthanasia doctor and lawyer? Or is that one of the things you don't know, so you can't comment? Common sense is all that is needed to see the obvious. But if your beliefs concur w/MS actions so be it! Keep the names of those doctors and lawyer - you may want to use them some day and they will be more than happy to oblige.

[andysandmikesmom]

I was wondering about your post #613...I have taken care of two younger aged patients, both diagnosed as being in a PVS, one for many, many years the other for just a few months...both had feeding tubes....yet they also appeared to be able to swallow, lick their lips, at various times, they seemed to utter words, always had their eyes appearing to look here and there....

As being their caretaker on my shift, I always had to chart, ,whether or not, I saw any meaninful attempt on the part of my patient to interact with their environment...sadly, most of the time, I had to chart, 'No'...now these patients knew me well, I cared for them 5days a week, 8 hrs a day, and gave them full loving care...yet they almost never responded to me in any meaningful way...I say 'almost', because there were occasions, that it appeared that they responded to me, whether to my voice, to my moving around their bed, or to any commands I might give them...but those were almost non existant times...

I remember one time, when one of them appeared to be tracking me with their eyes, as I passed at the foot of their bed...and I charted as much...but it was the only time, ever that this patient seemed to track me...his eyes were always moving, and it seemed to me, and apparently to the nursing home staff as well, that he coincidentally was moving his eyes across the foot of his bed, in a random manner, but it happened when I was moving across the foot of his bed...I would have been overjoyed, if it had signaled a true response to his environment, as he had a wife and young children....but he never did repeat it, not to me, nor to anyone else....

So, I do wonder, are there varying levels of PVS?...can some PVS patients appear more responsive than others?...just what do PVS patients feel and know?...even the greatest doctors minds seem not to be able to agree fully on this aspect of the PVS patients minds...we do know so little about the brain, and what it can and cannot do...

[sirthomasthemore]

No, you're fooling nobody.

You answered my first post by calling me a troll for referring to the "culture of death forces" as "Death Mongers". Fine. I do not retract that! Felos, Schiavo and Greer, as well as the abortion crowd (please see my post today by George Will RE: eugenics and abortion)are examples of the same.

Now, a second post has been put to you. Do you have the intellectual capacity to answer it...or is your sole ability ad hominem attacks?

[Earthdweller]

My post was about the movement advocating the killing all veggies in general.

You must have taken it personally.

[cyncooper]

Which was reasonable since you swooped in out of the blue to post it to ME.

That is why I called you a liar, yet look at you still trying to tar me with your charge.

Disgusting.

[cyncooper]

LOL

[Earthdweller]

So..just curious..do you advocate the killing of all PVS people?

Since you assume I accuse you personally then maybe you can clear this up.

[cyncooper]

Since you assume I accuse you personally

I assume when you post something to me you are directing it to me.

Stop with the lies. What's this sentence all about and what have I said to deserve this phrasing:

do you advocate the killing of all PVS people?

As you noted, personal attacks are againt the rules. Follow the rules and stop making personal attacks.

[Earthdweller]

It's a very simple question.

:^)Why don't you just answer it?

[sirthomasthemore]

Thanks. You answered my question.

[cyncooper]

My position has been plain for a long time and I even stated it on this thread.

That you prefer to make personal attacks via your lies speaks volumes.

You are malicious and deceitful.

Now go running off to the mods to cry about "personal attacks".

[cyncooper]

You have no idea what you are talking about.

[Earthdweller]

Did you state your position anywhere about advocating the killing of all PVS patients?

Was it yea or nea?

So many questions and so few answers.:^)

[Earthdweller]

Felos..I'll bet he would not have a problem answering a question about if he advocates the killing of all PVS patients.

Let's get someone to ask him.

Hannity might be a good one to do this.

Heck ..while we are giving the courts and the Lawyers the right to kill one why not make it a clean sweep.

Add in a few other disabled types to boot.

These things are just so confusing..:)(/sarc)

[sirthomasthemore]

AS I indicated, you have already answered the question I put to you.

I understand you. You need not reply further.

Thank you.

[cyncooper]

I have stated plainly that I thought Terri Schiavo's parents should have been granted guardianship and assumed her care.

I have not advocated the killing of even one PVS patient let alone "all".

Facts matter to me, evidently not to you.

Your unrelenting attacks based on lies are outrageous, as is your smug yet idiotic attitude.

Oh, and can the wide-eyed "why would you assume a post sent to you is directed to you?" act. It doesn't get much more stupid than that.

[cyncooper]

I'll reply to you when I feel like it.

You are a deceitful troll calling long time freepers "Death Mongers" though now evidently you're going to assume the latest trend of denying that's what you meant.