Posted on 04/16/2005 6:36:04 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot
Now Willie is going to explain that these artificially high prices are all that keep our sugar prices from rising!!
This thread is destined to soar to 20+ replies.
PROTECTIONISM BUMP!
The sugar beet farmers in the Dakotas and western Minnesota send their sincere thanks...
Say, who's the guy who argues that slavery is a necessary by-product of free trade? Do you remember?
Remember Monica and Bill Clinton? One of the people Bill talked to while Monica was doing her thing -- was a politically powerful, well-connected guy named Fanjul - a sugar producer.
Thanks for what? Helping themselves to our wallets?
Why, yes...
Sugar pisses me off.
I've always been amazed at the way those guys seem to have a direct line to the White House, regardless of the president's political affiliation.
She can always stay at my place, then. Tell her to bring a six-pack.
If you spent as much time in Hawaii as I did and saw just how depressed the the economy was due to a lack of sugar jobs you'd understand. Those jobs, which were present in the years prior to the 1990s, were high paying jobs which a person could support a family on. Now the only jobs one can look forward to is low-wage travel jobs. The same can be said for the pineapple industry. I don't think there is any commercial pineapple canning jobs in Hawaii anymore due to our failed trade policies.
Sure but she likes her Metallica LOUD!
That argument doesn't wash. To avoid pain in Hawaii, you'd rather inflict pain on the United States.
As a relative newcomer I must say that I love FR. Last week I got involved with a group of protectionist "anti-globalists" who promoted sugar price supports and accused me of treason for disagreeing.
I knew there must be someone who agreed with me and now this post.
I feel better.
Yes, the argument is valid. The study didn't take into account the intangibles such as higher taxes to take care of displaced families as well as the effects on the workers and society of the "burger-flipping" jobs that the displaced workers may or may not find.
The study is flawed therefore. They looks only at one aspect and leave out the bigger picture. Liberals argue that way all the time.
You guys are desperate and simplistic. Your method of argument is similar to that of the gun-banners. Shame on you.
Simple, huh? What can be more simple than an argument based upon zero-sum theory?
Its not just the cane and beet growers. Its farmers.
It was David Ricardo. In his thesis on comparative advantage, he also asserted that the natural price of labor stabilizes at the subsistance level. But the global trade shills prefer to keep that part of Ricardo's theory hush-hush.
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