Posted on 04/15/2005 1:32:54 PM PDT by Libloather
oops..being should read BEEN! Hitting the sauce early! :)
pubbies are slow learners.
we'll see how this goes.
So .. I guess Frist is hoping to incite the Christians who live in the states represented by the "dozen or so repubs" who don't want to vote for the CONSTITUTIONAL solution.
After they get overwhelmed with email, faxes and letters, I suspect they may have a change of heart.
Nothing like the wrath of your constituents to set a person straight.
I don't care if we win or lose the actual vote. Actually I do care that we win on the constitutional option. However, what is more important to me is that a vote actually takes place and we see who's on our side and who's not. I'm giving Frist the benefit of the doubt but we need to see it happen soon. Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater here and scorn all Repubs, just the ones that vote against the constitutional option.
Did you watch the Brit Hume show tonight? He wasn't there, but there was a story about the filibuster hoo-ha, and it seems that there were 2 of Clintons judges that were filibustered, BUT they both got voted in---ON THE 9TH CIRCUIT---
THAT is good enough reason for Frist to do what he needs--those two are two of the most communist in the country---
Anyway, they also said that Dodd, Biden, Boxer and Kerry are busy little bees trying to find more dirt on John Bolton by Tuesday when the committee is supposed to vote.
Well, supposedly there was an incident where Bolton got a State department underling taken off one of his "portfolios" because he did something (I forget,sorry), and that guy is now a staff member of Sen. Chuck Hagel!!!
When asked about whether this would influence HIS vote, Hagel was noncommittal, and Lincoln Chafee says he is still "leaning" toward voting for Bolton---
I tell you what, if Bolton does not get through to a floor vote, Bush should not put up any judicial nominees or cabinet nominees and then on the next break make about 25 "recess appointments"---
BTW, I also saw on Fox that Sen. Craig (R) of Idaho has put a hold on one of Bushs cabinet nominees until he gets his way and gets an AMNESTY amendment added to the Supplemental Afghanistan, Iraq and tsunami funding bill---
That is 4 four, cabinet nominees that Senators have put holds on, not counting Negroponte and Bolton---
Can anyone spell B A B I E S!!!!!
Me too. It was a letter from Ken Mehlman.
Yes, I saw portions of it. Those 2 idiots on the 9th Circus are mostly the reason why all their cases get reversed.
I'm sure the smear team is working overtime .. And yes, I did hear about the guy who now works for Hagel. I'm hoping Hagel will be fair about this .. but I know the dems are putting a lot of pressure on the weakest repubs. I guess we'll find out next week.
As for recess appointments they can be a two-edged sword. They are only good until the next session of Congress. A lot of people cannot pull up stakes from their current position and take a recess job for a year - with no prospect of being able to stay in the position. This was the reason that Bush has already lost a really good judge.
These dems are not only babies, they are really stupid. After Frist appears at the pro-family group - and the dems get overwhelmed with email, faxes and letters, they're going to find out this attitude is not a winning number .. and 2006 is looking better and better.
The worst part about Hagel is, Biden is his best friend--and I wouldn't put it past Biden to "threaten" Hagel somehow----
I know the drawbacks of the "recess appointments"---the trick would be to find enough of them that would make the sacrifice, in order to prove to the dems that if they are gonna play games, they will lose!!
Somehow, I have lost all faith in Frist to get anything done-I'm not even sure I would let him operate on me...he is just way to passive!!!
They're just trying to buy back some political capitol from the people. When all is said and done, we will be worse off than we are now.
Well .. please hang on a little longer .. Frist may surprise you yet .. we just have to stop comparing him to the "Hammer".
I'm reading these threads and I still don't understand. So it is needed 60 votes, and reps only have 55. But can the reps still do it?. I mean, even if the 60 votes are not reached, can President Bush still put whoever he wants?.
Asides from calling any and all Congress critters about this, are there any groups or movements which I can join to help stop the Democratic from blocking qualified judges from getting a vote?
That'll be the day.
Constitutionally only 51 votes are needed for Judicial appointments. The role of Congress is to advise and consent, no more. The Dems have decided to employ a quasi filibuster that necessitates 60 ayes before a vote can even be taken on the Senate floor for these judges. If a vote were allowed, they'd easily have the necessary 51 votes. In essence requiring a supermajority to bring a nominee to the floor where none is constitutionally required.
There is some side argument among scholars about whether the President even needs the Congress to vote to appoint a judge, but the central argument being conducted now centers on removing this supermajority impediment being exercised.
As it stands so long as the Dems remain obstructionists, his judges remain in limbo without a vote unless the rule is changed to 51 ayes to allow that vote.
The "Constitutional" option is simply to change the number needed to break a filibuster over judges to a simple majority. 51 Votes. If they did that, 51 ayes would allow a nominee to be voted on. From that point only 51 are needed to confirm the judge. Which they have.
There is doubt whether the Reps have 51 people brave enough to make this rule change.
IMO, whether they do or not doesn't matter. They should force the vote and have these senators commit to record where they stand on Judicial appointments. Several of these people are Senators that face difficult re-elections, and their constituents are very likely to respond the same way they did to daschle if they vote the wrong way on this issue.
Just getting this. You certainly have the gift of proclaiming the truth. Indeed we must stand firm.
Thanks for posting. This needed to be bumped.
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