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Mark Steyn: The Icewoman Cometh [To Hill and back]
National Review Online ^ | April 25, 2005 issue | Mark Steyn

Posted on 04/13/2005 1:10:44 PM PDT by Constitution Day

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To: Rummyfan
...send her back to Chappaqua?

Has the pig ever BEEN to Chappaqua?

101 posted on 04/13/2005 5:53:09 PM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: Dog Gone

I believe anything can happen with these people. They have no boundaries because they will do anything.


102 posted on 04/13/2005 5:54:36 PM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: G.Mason
Ask any woman, you respect, if she would vote for Hillary. ;)

I am nervous about her candidacy. I thought she was unelectable anywhere... I never even thought she'd win in NY. My family there told me they were absolutely shocked by some of the people who said they were voting for her.

103 posted on 04/13/2005 5:54:40 PM PDT by GraceCoolidge
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To: Rummyfan
If she wins, at least there would be massive Republican gains in the House, Senate, and at the state levels in 2010. Then work on getting her out in 2012...

Once they get in there, they can cheat, cheat, cheat. They sell everything and anything that is not theirs, and they get great returns. NOTHING is below this scum.

104 posted on 04/13/2005 5:57:17 PM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: rockrr
Most people didn't hate Kerry. Realistically, most people probably hadn't heard of Kerry before he ran. We tend to vastly overestimate the political interest and knowledge of the majority of voters in this country.

Kerry did become a little bit of a source of ridicule, but to the average voter, there was no hatred or fear of Kerry. Maybe just the sense that he wasn't up to the job.

The hatred of Hillary isn't just confined to the far right. She creeps out men and women of all political stripes. If she can pull it off despite that, she'll have come from a far weaker position than Kerry ever had.

105 posted on 04/13/2005 5:58:29 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
NEVER FORGET: CLINTONS CHEAT
106 posted on 04/13/2005 6:00:21 PM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: proud American in Canada

If I had to put my money on a GOP candidate right now, I'd go for George Allen. He came into the Virginia governor's race at a staggering disadvantage... he was behind by some astronomical figure. Mary Sue Terry was considered a shoo in. So I would say he's a good campaigner, probably has good ideas about what the media is going to play on the "elect a woman" issue, and of course his current role is only going to expand his campaign insight. Plus I think he's got personal charm that will win over some voters also. My guess is he could make Hillary look even more shrill and unappealing than usual (if such be possible).


107 posted on 04/13/2005 6:00:56 PM PDT by GraceCoolidge
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To: ran15

Exactly so. That's the beauty and true genius of the system of government the founders created.


108 posted on 04/13/2005 6:01:30 PM PDT by NCSteve
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

If Condi declares that she will be a pro-life president, I believe she will be pro-life. I think she's a woman of her word. Call it expediency if you like, but I don't believe she would lie about it. Expediency is fine with me, as long as the job gets done.

If hillary says it, on the other hand, it will be meaningless. Everyone knows she doesn't mean it. As Safire once remarked in a Times OpEd column, she is an "inveterate liar."


109 posted on 04/13/2005 6:12:50 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

Well-put, Cicero.


110 posted on 04/13/2005 6:15:53 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Do not fear the words of a sinner, for his splendor will turn into dung and worms.)
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To: Constitution Day
Mr. Steyn: You are carrying Hillary's ice water.

It Takes a Village may run, but they're aren't enough village idiots to elect her.

The rapist enabler will never be president of The United States of America.

Run Hillary Run!

111 posted on 04/13/2005 6:27:44 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Dog Gone
I agree with your assessment of the political sensibilities of Joe six-pack...I once related that most Americans approached voting like most men approach Christmas - ignore it until the last possible moment and then BAM! Powershop!

And I agree that sHrillary is a very controversial character. But don't think that won't stop the loonie left from:

1. Cheating
2. Closing ranks to consolidate power
3. Cheating
4. Holding their collective noses to vote for the be-otch
5. Cheating

Who knows? By 2008 they might even come up with an idea or two for their platform! ;'}
112 posted on 04/13/2005 6:53:16 PM PDT by rockrr (Revote or Revolt! It's up to you Washington!)
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To: Dog Gone
I think Steyn is wrong. Hillary is not electable.

That is just wishful thinking. She will carry ever state Kerry won. She had a very good chance of winning Ohio and a couple of others Bush won.. like Iowa. She might win West Virginia.

You are thinking voters react to Hillary the way you do. We know a majority of voters do not react to Bill or Hillary the way you do.

By 2008 the electorate will want nothing changed. That is, they will want grid lock. We will be 5 years into the good times and the public will want absolutely nothing done. Hillary will campaign at being better at doing nothing than anyone.

Styne has it right. The electorate will vote for grid lock. They will have a very strong Republican House and Senate and put Hillary in the White House. They won't be able to think of a better grid lock than that.

113 posted on 04/13/2005 6:59:58 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: Pokey78

thanks for the ping


114 posted on 04/13/2005 7:11:26 PM PDT by irv
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To: John Lenin

Great graphic! LOL!


115 posted on 04/13/2005 7:12:48 PM PDT by Rocky
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To: Dog Gone
Hillary is not electable.

I wish you were right, but this is the country which reelected Bill in 1996.

116 posted on 04/13/2005 7:19:16 PM PDT by Rocky
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To: Common Tator
We know a majority of voters do not react to Bill or Hillary the way you do.

No we don't. First of all, the votes were cast for Bill, not Hillary. They might have been cast more for Al Gore than her.

Predicting the 2008 election based on 1996 results is just dumb.

Perhaps the electorate will be ready for a party change in the presidency in 2008, but it's hardly a given, nor is it a historical pattern.

117 posted on 04/13/2005 7:38:41 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Rummyfan

The good news is I think she'll be President for two terms. It's good news because I'm always wrong.


118 posted on 04/13/2005 8:16:11 PM PDT by lasereye
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To: Constitution Day
Love it:

...cut out the photograph from the New York Times the other day: a pumped Robert C. Byrd giving a clenched-fist salute at a MoveOn.org rally. That’s the Rainbow Coalition 2005 model: a dwindling band of ancient vindictive legislators yoked to a cash-flush unrepresentative fringe.

119 posted on 04/13/2005 10:03:08 PM PDT by GOPJ (Liberals haven't had a new idea in 40 years.)
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To: G.Mason

Well said.


120 posted on 04/13/2005 10:22:12 PM PDT by sine_nomine (Protect the weakest of the weak - the unborn babies.)
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