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Legal Mexican migrant workers protest
Bakersfield Californian ^ | 4/13/05 | Morgan Lee - AP

Posted on 04/13/2005 12:58:00 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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1 posted on 04/13/2005 12:58:03 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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AP Photo/GUILLERMO ARIAS

Mexican migrant Manuel Camero, right, talks during an interview, as Michael Dale, an attorney with the Northwest Workers' Justice Project in Portland, Oregon, listens, Tuesday, April 12, 2005, in Mexico City. More than a dozen legal Mexican and Central American migrant workers recruited by U.S. companies filed a complaint Wednesday alleging they were abused and denied legal services guaranteed by the North American Free Trade Agreement.


2 posted on 04/13/2005 1:02:26 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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"...the complaint calls on the Mexican government to ask the United States to better enforce its own labor laws."

While I certainly believe these legal migrants should be offered recourse to address their petition, please remind me, exactly what are Mexico's labor laws again? and should we enforce ours comparatively to theirs?

3 posted on 04/13/2005 1:03:55 PM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: NormsRevenge

The sooner NAFTA is GONE, the better for the USA. Don't vote for any candidate that SUPPORTS FREE TRADE AGREEMENTS!!!!


4 posted on 04/13/2005 1:04:39 PM PDT by EagleUSA (Q)
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Northwest Workers' Justice Project .. quite the assortment of leftists on the board.


http://www.nwjp.org/advisory.html



5 posted on 04/13/2005 1:05:16 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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If these workers are or were legal they deserve the same treatment as any other American worker. I don't think whining to Vincente Arafat will do much good. They should bring their concerns to American courts where they're more likely to get a fair shake.


6 posted on 04/13/2005 1:08:17 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I'm apathetic but really don't care.)
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The company even tried to charge workers for their Social Security cards, claims Camero. He said he fled the job with other workers after they were threatened by the business owner.

I thought SS was for US citizens. Was he trying to get a card illegally? Just curious.

7 posted on 04/13/2005 1:08:26 PM PDT by beltfed308
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"But I think that across the United States, which is a country of laws - where the law means something - these types of abuses are occurring with people who go there needing work to make money for their families."

Except the law that forbids illegals flooding our country.

8 posted on 04/13/2005 1:17:36 PM PDT by bkwells
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A few years ago a hispanic co worker explained that one of the reason he was against illegals was his fear that American hispanics would begin to be treated as illegals.


9 posted on 04/13/2005 1:22:55 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I'm apathetic but really don't care.)
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Sorry guys I do not hold anyone equal to Americans period they can go pound sand for all I care.
10 posted on 04/13/2005 1:34:19 PM PDT by Fast1 (Destroy America buy Chinese goods,Shop at Wal-Mart 3/18/05 American was gone when I woke up)
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To: beltfed308

No, you get an SS number on an H1B or an L1.


11 posted on 04/13/2005 1:38:40 PM PDT by proxy_user
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Thanks for the info!


12 posted on 04/13/2005 1:40:21 PM PDT by beltfed308
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He wouldn't get a SS card from his employer if he applied to the government LIKE HE'S SUPPOSED TO in the first place.

I smell a scam.


13 posted on 04/13/2005 1:47:07 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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What if we just close our borders...and put criminal work crews out there to do the labor these companies want done at low rates. Just like litter crews...why aren't we doing this?
14 posted on 04/13/2005 1:52:43 PM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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I did to except it could be an error in the story. It sounds like he was trying to get around the legal aspect of applying himself.


15 posted on 04/13/2005 1:56:42 PM PDT by beltfed308
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Oh, I dont' know.

How many criminals would you like to work next to in the factories and chain stores.

You would think that it would be an easy solution, but it would be much more complicated to do that.

How about hiring americans, say like, school kids looking to work their way through school, instead.

I don't buy the line of 'they do they jobs that americans won't).

They do the jobs that americans refuse to take 'less than minimun wage' for.


16 posted on 04/13/2005 1:58:11 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: beltfed308

"It sounds like he was trying to get around the legal aspect of applying himself."

Then someone is selling him a bill of goods, because he has the right and responsibility to apply for a SS card.

Like I said. Sounds like a scam to me.


17 posted on 04/13/2005 1:59:33 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine

RIGHT ON!


18 posted on 04/13/2005 2:05:50 PM PDT by GoodWithBarbarians JustForKaos (Peace on earth! After major whup-a$$)
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To: Bigh4u2

Most of the jobs these immigrants are coming for a agricultural. Not mall jobs or interaction with the public sector. I grew up in California and these people are coming to work in produce at below minimum wages. I am talking about using low threat criminals for these crews. I think it could work. We use the criminals all the time to do janitorial, maintenance, landscaping etc. for government entities, the general public just isn't aware of it.


19 posted on 04/13/2005 2:07:50 PM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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I have a real problem with Mexican courts having any "jurisdiction" against US based companies/businesses - particularly regarding employment "rights".

If someone comes here to work and doesn't like the work - go home. I'm sick of adjusting OUR country for them.


20 posted on 04/13/2005 2:12:56 PM PDT by TheBattman (Islam (and liberals) and gasoline producers and sellers- the cult of Satan)
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