German ruling says Dresden was a holocaust

Telegraph ^ | 4-12-5 | Hannah Cleaver in Berlin

[rock58seg]

Thank you for your service! I was fortunate to only serve in a peacetime, U.S.Army, in Germany.

[Lion in Winter]

You served... that IS all that matters you know. You were there just in case it was no longer a peaceful time.

So, here goes .... A BIG THANKS TO YOU!!

Regards!!

[willyboyishere]

"How do they characterize the blitz of London?"
-----as an unsuccessful Holocaust.

[ozzymandus]

Really nice. All the name-calling proves who the idiot asshole is.

[willyboyishere]

Germany always has had a vested interest in bringing up their own suffering during WW2, and the bombing of Dresden
is as good an example as any. The only way they can mitigate the horrors of what they did is to try to create
some kind of equivalence in what was done to THEM. It is
sort of a hydraulic relieving of the awful pressure of collective guilt at having perpetrated something that they will NEVER be able to live down historically. The behavior of the Germans under Hitler will continue to be emblematic of just how unprecedentedly awful the behavior of the so-called cultured and civilized can be.

[schu]

As Ralph Peters says, "the Germans burnt the soul of their culture in the ovens of Auschwitz"

And what you will not hear the left media tell you is Hitler and his ilk were pagans and artists and into the occult.

[Calvin Locke]

I'm reminded of a book written about 100 years earlier, iirc. "Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds".

I read a post about a month ago that suggested that if the US did not join in WWI, France, England, and Germany
would have settled the ongoing war on terms other than the vindictive Treaty of Versailles, and as such, would
have avoided the conditions that led to Hiter's rise to power.

Any way, I took an "Intro to Western Religion" course in college, and the prof said that the US was about
60 years behind Germany in philosophical trends...

[DelphiUser]

Thank you very much for your service to our country!

I for one appreciate it.

[muawiyah]

It was a big war ~ many seemingly unconnected events were actually extremely important to the final outcome.

[muawiyah]

The problem is that if you forget what was going on in the Far East you end up ignoring a large chunk of WWII as it was participated in by Americans.

The Japanese invasion of China precipitated a chain of events that's still going on ~ to wit: North Korea's nuclear warheads and missiles!

It's very important to not limit our considerations to Europe alone ~ in this particular World War Europe was but a mere theatre!

[muawiyah]

The winners write the histroy. Still, time moves on, and as it moves folks ask for "exceptions", and next thing you know the entire war has been rewritten!

There are people on this thread who don't have a clue why the Russians were even in WWII and why the US and USSR were allies!

In 1943 no one would have understood why we weren't!

[Red Sea Swimmer]

Holocaust in Greek means "Burnt Offering".

The people struck by the bombs of Dresden were certainly burnt. It was a type of burnt offering.

What unfolded for many of the Jewish people in Nazi occupied Europe was certainly another burnt offering. The numbers may be different, but both events are horrific.

[muawiyah]

BTW, Tokyo was NEVER nuked.

There are several reasons for this, among them that there were no more targets left in Tokyo itself! COnventional bombing destroyed everything worth hitting.

[Red Sea Swimmer]

Many young Germans I have met in my travels have been very good people.

[muawiyah]

"Apartheid" is a far gentler word than "slavery".

If you don't believe me ask a slave!

[Red Sea Swimmer]

Winners may write the history books, but Hashem ultimately holds sway over world history. "Winners" come and go.

Pax Israelica or Pax Moshiach.

Which one was prophesied to eventually have ultimate sovereignty over the Holy Land ?

Vox Populi is very fluid and can change like the wind. True prophecy however is immutable.

[muawiyah]

Obviously the guy who wrote that book didn't know about the Ku Klux Klan in the Midwest. Ended up German-Americans were just a decade ahead of the Germans in Germany when it came to shiftless, nogood, totalitarian racists who hated Jews.

Thank God we crushed the Klan when we did.

[12B]

The title of this article is misleading. The ruling does not say that Dresden was a Holocaust. It simply rules that use of the word "BombenHolocaust" does not violate German laws against "Volksverhetzung" (basically hate speech) and "Verhamlosung" (trivialization) of the Holocaust.

As usual, rulings on hate speech vs free speech are a fine line but I think they generally made the right call on this one.

[Americanexpat]

Come on, fess up, this is really Ward Churchill isn´t it?

[Dont_Tread_On_Me_888]

OF course not. I implied "Japan was nuked" and corrected that with a post right after that.

My point is two Japanese cities were nuked, Tokyo and Dresden were firebombed (and probably killed as many people as the nukes), and these two nations today have no taste for war, one has a Constitution that forbids offensive action, and they are our friends today.

Bringing the horror of war (including massive civilian casualties) has a tendency to make a nation hate war.

Today's soldier fighting soldier, and today's politically correct "don't attack the mosque, even though it is an enemy bunker" style of warfare is a road to continual nonstop warfare.