There's a Crack In Our Foundation - (Terri Schiavo; America betrayed her)

GOPUSA.COM ^ | APRIL 12, 2005 | DEBBIE DANIEL

[Doe Eyes]

So many keep confusing their decisions to let their terminal relatives go with Terri.

I don't know what " So Many" want, but my fear is that these decisions will be taken from the family, and given to the government. I don't think it belongs there. Course I'm not a big believer in having the government run my family.

[SoothsayerToo]

Every day I come to visit FR I find it reeking with the stench of a family squabble that some of you cannot let go.

[Earthdweller]

I don't think you and your family made the wrong decision.

What you did was not murder..what was done to Terri was. I personally would want the government to step in if someone was going to kill me needlessly.

[processing please hold]

Every day I come to visit FR I find it reeking with the stench of a family squabble that some of you cannot let go.

Then maybe you should check out the Smoky Backroom, The WPPFF thread, you'll like it.

[Doe Eyes]

So what is your law?

How is this to be legislated? I hope that all sides are considered.

I'll tell you, the last thing I wanted to deal with while my mother was dieing, was a bunch of government types approving the process.

[Earthdweller]

Easy..no terminal illness means no death.

Tell the MD's that they had better have a terminal diagnosis on the books before they carry out any death warrants.

What's the big deal?

[Doe Eyes]

You still didn't answer the question. How is this going to be legislated. We all know that's where its headed.

[ArmyTeach]

Nobody is going to flame you. You took responsibility for a very difficult decision and it was the right one. But your father's condition was similar to Terri's only very superficially.
Terry was handicapped, not terminal. She was healthy. She did not rely on any mechanical means of life support. Nobody was allowed to test to see if she could swallow. There was so much left out of this equation that this case will always be clouded in doubts and suspicions. Too many questions never to be answered.

[ArmyTeach]

Again, it's not about you or me. It's not anyone else to decide for Terri. But yes, I have determined that if I am terminal I want respirators and heart machines removed, but feed me - please. When my body gives up, so will my desire to eat or drink.

[Earthdweller]

I guess you are asking me what "lucky" legislators will get the jobs of wading through it all. My guess is that it will be the states.

I know I won't be retiring in Florida anytime soon with their books the way they are.

[MHGinTN]

"TS was able to swallow originally, but the ability was lost over the years she spent in the kind care of her medical/legal professionals." Even more telling, she was recorded on video swallowing and licking her lips! But that was during the period when her then husband was fighting to win a lawsuit and showed intense attention to her therapy, etc. Of course, as soon as the monies came under his control, he ordered ALL THERAPY to stop and even threatened people who tried to her Terri. He forced neglect upon her for more than a decade, so it is no wonder she had trouble swallowing in 2004. The disgusting truth of the monster, Michael Schiavo, out grosses even the most adamant defender of his treachery toward Terri.

[RightWhale]

Whether MS is a monster or not I don't know. One thing I do know is that all this was done through the State, and I don't refer to the State of Florida. The State, through its agents and institutions, did this. If there is a monster to be seen, look toward that.

[Earthdweller]

One last evil thought..

I can see the undertones of the competition now.

"Go to Florida and they will give you rest...really they will."

"Come to South Carolina and really live."

I don't see any state wanting to be called the death state.

At the same time giving it to the states might segregate the disabled to certain areas.

When all is said and done I'll bet the States will want this to go Federal.

We'll see.

[Earthdweller]

Here's a whole bunch more veggies for you to off...

http://www.hmsschool.org/hms_news_June%2003.htm

So this guy is up for extermination because he is on "life support".

TREATING STUDENTS ON THE SPOT. . . HMS nurses grab students on the run when activities are in high gear. During the annual art show, Anita Rickards (left) stopped Derrick in the hall to administer a tube feeding, while Colleen McGowan-Hardin did the same with Joey to keep the boys on schedule without interfering in their fun.

Here's another one ....dude....you would have a field day pronouncing death on people in limited cognitive ability.

MORE Veggies!!! Yeah Hahahaa..we know what's best for them! Talk about a Circus man!!! Let the killing begin.

Would you like to see others that you and your doctor friends can send to "h@ll" by your own hands?There must be thousands of them.

Forget Me Not

Our problems are many & varied, our struggles are always uphill... I'm speaking for hundreds of children, so listen awhile if you will...

I want understanding- not pity, I wish you could treat me the same...

You wouldn't ignore the other children, at least you would ask them their name...

I know I can't answer to tell you, my face may seem empty & dead.... My body is twisted- but I AM alive, and there ARE thoughts in my head...

I will not be shut out from the world, I am a child & it is my right....

I'm not an object of pity- to be hidden away out of sight....

My parents see me through eyes of love, and not as others do.... They see the things I can achieve & I wish that you would too.......

As I ask you to Forget-Me-Not, I beg you to hear my plea...

If I could speak I would ask you.... to please look closer & see me.

Author/source unknown Here's another one..if the parents had listened to you and their doctors she would be a mummy right now.

Heather was born in October 1986. She wasn't due until November. However a ultrasound showed there was no amniotic fluid and a emergency c section was done. As soon as the cord was cut there was lung shock and affixation. She was given CPR for the first 15 minutes of her life. She was given a 25% chance of survival. I knew in my heart that since she was born alive she would make it. We were never told that there would be any chance of disabilities. At six months she started having seizures (infantile spasms).

Our pediatrician laughed at me and said they were seizures and scheduled a EEG for two weeks. Needless to say we weren't happy with him and found another Dr within an hour and she was admitted into the hospital within two hours from that.

We were real lucky with the medications. They put her on Phenobarbital and the seizures were under control within a week. They said she would be on the meds until she was at least 3, probably 5. She was off them within 18 months and has been seizure free since.

Again, there was no mention of any disabilities.

At 7 mths a visiting nurse recommended therapy because she was not doing age appropriate things. Than a friend asked if she had cp. I said I think someone would have mentioned it, but I'll ask. At therapy I asked and was told she had too much muscle tone and that was it. At the next appointment we had to see a CCS doctor.

As soon as I walked in the door she said, "Oh, your daughter does have Cerebral Palsy, always has and always will, she will never walk, she will be severally retarded and she will sit in a wheelchair and drool, now this is how I want you to stretch her legs". Needless to say I was in shock.

After I left I called her Pediatrician and asked what this woman was talking about. We went in and all was finally explained to us.

Her diagnoses is Spastic Quad, visually impaired (legally blind), developmentally delayed and seizure disorder. I then went out to get as much information as possible and continue to do so to this day. She had a Selective dorsal Rhizotomy at age 3 and has has 3 hip surgeries for a dislocated right hip.

With the help of a very supportive family and an awful lot of determination Heather has and continues to defy the doctors, therapist and medical profession in general with her abilities and her progress.

[Earthdweller]

Apparently it's not an easy jump for you from humans to veggies. What's the big deal about comparing your apples and oranges?

I rather prefer to think of myself as a peach. Thank you very much. :^)~

[supercat]

This is exactly how I felt.

Me too. Never before have I known such evil. It is truly frightening.

[supercat]

The 7 CREDIBLE doctors said she was in a PVS.

Please list the doctors who said she had no prognosis for recovery after examining her for an hour or more.

[longtermmemmory]

So we must remember terri and work to never let it happen to another person.

In the words of Rep. Delay. She was one of us. Anybody can be next to be abused by the judiciary. It may not be a guardianship case, it may be some other right abused or "redefined" by some judges.

People have NO CONCEPT of how absurd the civil courts are in a day to day scenario. Judges really are free to do whatever they can contort logic to their desired end result.

The Judiciary needs to be reignin into their original function. I personally believe that any other judge would have simply asked what would terri have wanted if she could have been "fully functional" for just 30 minutes and made aware of what was going on. Would she have wanted to stay with her husband in name only? Would she have wanted her mother and father to take care of her? The result would have been different.

That only points out the problem with a judicial branch that is JUDGE DEPENDANT instead of LAW DEPENDANT.

Either way, it will NEVER get better with democrats. Only republicans are in a position to potentially end the black robe fever.