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Catholics in U.S. Keep Faith, but Live With Contradictions
NY Times ^ | April 11, 2005 | DEAN E. MURPHY and NEELA BANERJEE

Posted on 04/10/2005 8:45:39 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: oldbrowser

Yep. Going from latin mass to Benny Hinn tent meetings is tough :o)


41 posted on 04/11/2005 8:23:07 AM PDT by cyborg (Feel the FReeper Love)
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To: Malesherbes

You can go to Mass as many times as you want in one day. However you can receive Holy Communion but once a day (except in very, very limited circumstances).


42 posted on 04/11/2005 8:28:37 AM PDT by pbear8 (I love you JPII, pray for us)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
When you are right, you are profoundly right.
43 posted on 04/11/2005 8:34:06 AM PDT by verity (A mindset is a terrible thing to waste.)
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To: Aleighanne

Welcome home.

May your faith in Christ grow stronger every day. He has always been with you.


44 posted on 04/11/2005 9:15:33 AM PDT by Francis McClobber
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To: seamole

Thank you for the correction.


45 posted on 04/11/2005 9:16:19 AM PDT by Francis McClobber
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To: neverdem

The MSM just does not get it. The gall of them to advise the church as to what they should be doing. These people have no shame.


46 posted on 04/11/2005 12:55:55 PM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: Uncle Hal

They do it because they fear the RCC. It is one of the few Christian churches whose leadership they cannot influence.


47 posted on 04/11/2005 2:12:11 PM PDT by LisaFab
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To: neverdem; GatorGirl; maryz; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; livius; goldenstategirl; ..
Here is why we avoid so called 'catholic' schools, in the words of a 'catholic school' student:
"If it wants to stay one of the major religions in this country, it needs to progress with the times and let women priests in," said Katie McDevitt, 20, a sophomore at Boston College, a Jesuit university. Ms. McDevitt says she attends church relatively regularly, and she recently went to a memorial Mass for John Paul. "It needs not to be so sexist and patriarchal. There is a lot of emphasis on the wrong principles."

48 posted on 04/11/2005 2:14:49 PM PDT by narses (St James the Moor-slayer, Pray for us! +)
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To: supercat

Thats right....and tomorrow, and the next day and the next.


49 posted on 04/11/2005 2:27:08 PM PDT by TheGunny
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To: supercat

Thats right....and tomorrow, and the next day and the next.


50 posted on 04/11/2005 2:27:21 PM PDT by TheGunny
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To: narses

"It needs not to be so sexist and patriarchal. There is a lot of emphasis on the wrong principles."

So, she's looking at gender as the correct and only emphasis? (Smack head, hit wall....scream).






51 posted on 04/11/2005 2:28:22 PM PDT by OpusatFR (Just because you put lipstick on a pig doesn't mean it smells any better.)
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To: narses

We tried to get my daughter into the local liberal Catholic school who blackmails parents for spaces. It was like attending a prison camp. The more money you gave, the more time you gave them, the better your chances for a spot. I gave lots of time. Then the head of the Nursery that I worked every Sunday, told me that his son did Preschool there, but he did not make it into Kindergarten. This man had been coordinating and working this nursery for 4 years and yet it wasn't good enough. He left the parish and so did I.

Now we handle it with a great Syllabus from "Our Lady of Divine Grace" and real CCD at a great conservative parish (I can't sing it's praises enough). Who needs Catholic school at the tune of 1800.00 a year when I can do it for 49.99 + the cost of books?

(their uniforms are PJs most days!)


52 posted on 04/11/2005 2:31:40 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Oh Lord help me this day to keep my big mouth shut)
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To: narses
We tried to get my daughter into the local liberal Catholic school who blackmails parents for spaces. It was like attending a prison camp. The more money you gave, the more time you gave them, the better your chances for a spot. I gave lots of time. Then the head of the Nursery that I worked every Sunday, told me that his son did Preschool there, but he did not make it into Kindergarten. This man had been coordinating and working this nursery for 4 years and yet it wasn't good enough. He left the parish and so did I.

Now we handle it with a great Syllabus from "Our Lady of Divine Grace" and real CCD at a great conservative parish (I can't sing it's praises enough). Who needs Catholic school at the tune of 1800.00 a year when I can do it for 49.99 + the cost of books?

(their uniforms are PJs most days!)
53 posted on 04/11/2005 2:32:02 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Oh Lord help me this day to keep my big mouth shut)
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To: netmilsmom

Sorry for the double post!


54 posted on 04/11/2005 2:33:03 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Oh Lord help me this day to keep my big mouth shut)
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To: netmilsmom

No need to apologize, I read it twice and agreed with you both times.


55 posted on 04/11/2005 2:55:00 PM PDT by narses (St James the Moor-slayer, Pray for us! +)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
Canon 921 refers to Viaticum. It is possible that you go to two masses in one day, then are in a situation to receive Viaticum, and that is allowed. It's the only way you can receive the Eucharist 3 times in one 24 hour period!

How is the term "day" defined, for such purposes? Local midnight to local midnight, typical sleep/wake cycle [excluding all-nighters and naps], or what? I would think the latter definition would be the most logical, excluding deliberate abuse.

56 posted on 04/11/2005 7:51:40 PM PDT by supercat ("Though her life has been sold for corrupt men's gold, she refuses to give up the ghost.")
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To: supercat

According to Jimmy Akins, who is a great one for good solid answers, and from whom I lifted this info, it refers to a 24 hour period.

He talks about it in great detail on this page:

http://www.jimmyakin.org/2005/02/how_many_times_.html


57 posted on 04/11/2005 7:57:07 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
According to Jimmy Akins, who is a great one for good solid answers, and from whom I lifted this info, it refers to a 24 hour period.

So when the period from local midnight to local midnight is 24 hours, that's a "day". Got it. What happens if the period from local midnight to local midnight is something other than 24 hours?

58 posted on 04/11/2005 8:06:19 PM PDT by supercat ("Though her life has been sold for corrupt men's gold, she refuses to give up the ghost.")
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To: supercat

I suspect it's more your 24 hours. You receive Eucharist at 8 in the morning, then again 12 hours later, then you better wait a full 12 hours your personal time before receiving again, no matter how many time zones you cross! Or that's how I would feel obliged to interpret it for my personal doings.


59 posted on 04/11/2005 8:13:21 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: JohnnyZ
He just shot down hand-holding during the Our Father,

Your diocese must be in perfect shape if the bishop is focusing on minutiae like this.

60 posted on 04/11/2005 8:18:30 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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