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She's Still 'Hanoi Jane'
The San Diego Union-Tribune ^ | 4/10/2005 | Robert J. Caldwell

Posted on 04/10/2005 6:53:47 AM PDT by kellynla

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To: mountainlyons; kellynla; All
Nixon was involved with Viet Nam since 1955.
Yet he caved into the hippy scum and ignored the Silent Majority
and let Hanoi Jane and Hanoi Kerry go free.


26 Sep 1945 - The first death of an American serviceman in Vietnam occurred.
OSS (Office of Special Operations) Major (Lieutenant Colonel) A. Peter Dewey
was killed in action by the Communist Vietminh near Hanoi.

May 1950 President Harry S Truman authorised $10 million in aid to the French for their war in Viet Nam.
By January 1951, $150 million had been given in aid.

1953-61 Dwight D. Eisenhower 34th US President
1953-61 Richard M. Nixon Vice President
1953 - The US is supporting the French in the amount of $1 billion per year--
33% of all US foreign aid--which is 80% of the total cost to the
. US Secretary of State, John Foster Dulles (under Eisenhower) first voices the 'Domino Theory':
if one country in Southeast Asia falls to the Communists, they will all fall, one by one.
12 Feb 55 - President Eisenhower's administration sends 1st 350 U.S. advisers to South Vietnam
to train the South Vietnamese Army
8 Jun 56 - The first American of record to die in Vietnam
was Air Force Tech Sergeant Richard B. Fitzgibbon Jr.
His son, Richard B. Fitzgibbon III, died in Vietnam Sep 7, 1965.
8 Jun 56 Has been formally recognized by the Pentagon as the first American officially to die in that war.
5 Sep 56 - President Eisenhower tells a news conference that the French are
"involved in a hopelessly losing war in Indochina" 1956 The US believed in that Ho Chi Minh would have won any election held in Viet Nam and used their influence over the government of the State of Viet Nam to ensure that the election was not held




From a Must Visit Site
Vipers Vietnam Veterans Page, A Vietnam Veteran & Proud Web Site
About Vietnam

The Vietnam war was the longest in our nation's history.
1st American advisor was killed on June 08, 1956,

and the last casualties in connection with the war occurred on May 15, 1975, during the Mayaquez incident. Approximately 2.7 million Americans served in the war zone; 300,000 were wounded and approximately 75,000 permanently disabled. Officially there are still 1,991 Americans unaccounted for from SE Asia.

Vietnam was a savage, in your face war where death could and did strike from anywhere with absolutely no warning. The brave young men and women who fought that war paid an awful price of blood, pain and suffering. As it is said: "ALL GAVE SOME ... SOME GAVE ALL"
The Vietnam war was not lost on the battlefield. No American force in ANY other conflict fought with more determination or sheer courage than the Vietnam Veteran.  For the first time in our history America sent it's young men and women into a war run by inept politicians who had no grasp of military strategies and no moral will to win. They were led by "top brass" who were concerned mainly with furthering their own careers, most neither understood the nature of the war nor had a clue about the impossible mission with which they'd tasked their soldiers.  And the war was reported by a self serving Media who penned stories filled with inaccuracies, deliberate omissions, biased presentations and blatant distorted interpretations because they were more interested in a story than the truth! It can be debated that we should never have fought that war. It can also be argued that the young Americans who fought so courageously, never losing a single major battle, helped in a huge way to WIN THE COLD WAR.

41 posted on 04/10/2005 8:53:52 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Be wary of the "Move On" FReepers! They want Hanoi Kerry to get a "free pass" mmmm Wonder Why?)
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To: traderrob6
My new People magazine came the other day (at least with the Pope on the cover) with her 4 page spread. I wrote the Editor at people and said I know of Veterans who could put better use to the pages in their magazine, then those used on Hanoi Jane. Screw her and her book. Im also saying boycott her publisher.
42 posted on 04/10/2005 8:54:31 AM PDT by duck duck goose (an apology shouldnt include, by the way I have a book coming out.)
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To: Libloather
I keep saying this in these threads about the vile b*tch:

There used to be a lengthy documentary with movie of her committing these atrocious acts of treason--I saw it in the early '80's--WITH THE ENEMY TO THE UNITED STATES, sitting in an enemy tank, wearing an enemy helmet, holding an enemy's weapon aimed to the sky, giggling and saying that she wished an American helicopter would fly by SO THAT SHE COULD SHOOT IT DOWN.

I speculate that her husband, Ted, purchased these pictures and destroyed them...???
43 posted on 04/10/2005 9:01:20 AM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

BTTT!!!!!!


44 posted on 04/10/2005 9:01:44 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: Chode

Yep, Mike Spann killed while talking to scum Lindh. But lets now forget all the Vietnam POWs and our fighting Vets who suffered because of Fonda as well. All I`m saying is it is outrageous that this woman, if you can call her a woman, never spent two seconds in jail because in my opinion she did the same exact thing as Lindh if not worse. Let`s not forget Lindh was with the Taliban well before we started taking them out. Fonda on the other hand took sides with commies well after the Vietnam war had started and created mass propaganda for them. It just goes to show that their are two sets of laws in this country, one for the famous and one for the not famous. In my opinion Fonda as well as Lindh both should have been executed, something I`m sure would have happened if it had been WW2 instead.


45 posted on 04/10/2005 9:02:31 AM PDT by Imaverygooddriver (ALL YOU BASE ARE BELONG TO US)
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To: dts32041

I remember seeing the video of her sitting on that gun mount, not just the photograph. However, the MSM will not admit that she sat there smiling and that they filmed it.

Nobody, including communist snopes, can tell me that it didn't happen.

I saw it with my own eyes.

You can, however, believe anything you choose to believe.


46 posted on 04/10/2005 9:04:05 AM PDT by El Gran Salseron ( The equal opportunity male chauvinist pig. :-))
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To: dts32041
Ask Snopes if this is true.

Jane Fonda tells the student audience at the Michigan State University in 1969; "I would think that if you understood what communism was, you would hope, you would pray on your knees, that we would someday become communist."

47 posted on 04/10/2005 9:13:35 AM PDT by MosesKnows
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To: Imaverygooddriver
i post the picture everytime that POS lind's picture or name pop's up... it wasn't meant as a comment on your post.

FReegards

48 posted on 04/10/2005 9:16:31 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Mad Mammoth
Good morning.
"And ironically, that Communist slut claims to be a 'born again Christian'.

Everyone with half a brain knows that Communist slut is synonymous with liar.

The problem is that liberals don't think that is a bad thing.

Michael Frazier
49 posted on 04/10/2005 9:19:47 AM PDT by brazzaville (No surrender,no retreat. Well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: El Gran Salseron

I saw it too...see my #43.

The lengthy documentary was on a television station in Sacramento, CA...early '80's.

WHERE IS THE DOCUMENTARY NOW?


50 posted on 04/10/2005 9:23:29 AM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: CGblue
Good morning.

I'm finding that I get a small measure of satisfaction from seeing that she is rapidly turning into a shriveled old crone. That must hurt her badly.

Michael Frazier
51 posted on 04/10/2005 9:25:21 AM PDT by brazzaville (No surrender,no retreat. Well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: MikeinIraq

Did she ever apologize for this? Not that it would have been sincere but an apology at least is a start, an admission that you were wrong (and with some people, it's sincere). How many countries would have executed her for this treasonous act? She would not have even returned how to many countries knowing what would happen to her when she did. I think even the USA needs to try and punish traitorus and treasonous people like this. We were at war then and we are at war now and these people should be punished, plain and simple. Letting them off the hook, in my opinion, does not make us a great country, as the liberals would have you believe, it makes us a country that is too lax and permissive and is not hard enough on its enemies from within.


53 posted on 04/10/2005 9:30:45 AM PDT by Contra
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To: Contra

I think you know the answer to the first question and the second, just about every one of them except some of the Euroweenie countries and the US....


54 posted on 04/10/2005 9:32:18 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (Iohannas Paulus II, Requiescat in Pacem)
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To: Wild Bill 10

Welcome Home Brother


55 posted on 04/10/2005 9:33:59 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Be wary of the "Move On" FReepers! They want Hanoi Kerry to get a "free pass" mmmm Wonder Why?)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Hey Tonk.

How about organizing some protests at her book signings.
Do you think the Protest Warriors and/or SwiftBoat Vets might be interested?

I wish I had the time to do it.

Freegards,
RT


56 posted on 04/10/2005 9:35:18 AM PDT by RebelTex (Freedom is everyone's right - and everyone's responsibility!)
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To: Chode; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; kellynla; MikeinIraq; Imaverygooddriver
Johnny Micheal Spann


This man was killed because of John Phillip Walker Lindh.

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Trial

On February 5, 2002, Walker was indicted by a federal grand jury on ten charges, including conspiring to support terrorist organizations and conspiring to murder Americans. The charges carried three life terms and 90 additional years in prison. On February 13, 2002, he pleaded "not guilty" to all ten charges. .

To forestall this possibility, Michael Chertoff, the head of the criminal division of the Justice Department, directed the prosecutors to offer Walker a plea bargain: He would plead guilty to two charges - serving in the Taliban army and carrying weapons.( Jane couldn't carry the weapon, so she sat on it.) He would also have to consent to a gag order that would prevent him from making any public statements on the matter for the duration of his twenty-year sentence, and he would have to drop claims that he had been mistreated or tortured by U.S. military personnel in Afghanistan and aboard two military ships during December 2001 and January 2002. In return, all the other charges would be dropped.

Walker accepted this offer. On July 15, 2002, he entered his plea of guilty to the two remaining charges. The judge asked Walker to say, in his own words, what he was admitting to. "I plead guilty," he said. "I provided my services as a soldier to the Taliban last year from about August to December. In the course of doing so, I carried a rifle and two grenades. I did so knowingly and willingly knowing that it was illegal." On October 4, 2002, Judge T.S. Ellis formally imposed the sentence: 20 years without parole.

Walker's attorney, James Brosnahan, said Walker would be eligible for release in 17 years, with good behavior. This is because, although there is no parole under federal law, his sentence could be reduced by 15 percent, or three years, for good behavior. In addition, Walker agreed to cooperate "fully, truthfully and completely" with both military intelligence and law enforcement agencies in the terrorism investigation, and any profits Walker might make from telling his story will be taken by the government.

Of the 58,000 + who died in Vietnam, how many did Hanoi Jane send to the grave? I guess you have to be a senator, or a B!tch actress, to avoid prosecution???


57 posted on 04/10/2005 9:41:04 AM PDT by Issaquahking (.)
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To: RebelTex

It would just give the b***h free publicity.

She had enough from Nixon when he didn't prosecute her.

Even know she gets free publicity by lack of prosecution.

He** they even have pics of her, in North Viet Nam and they (powers to be) are afraid to prosecute her or Hanoi Kerry!

BUT they are both rich AND money buys a lot!

a) A person charged with absence without leave or missing movement in time of war,
or with any offense punishable by death,
may be tried at any time without limitation.

http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/ucmj.htm#*%20843.%20ART.%2043.%20STATUTE%20OF%20LIMITATIONS


58 posted on 04/10/2005 9:44:03 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Be wary of the "Move On" FReepers! They want Hanoi Kerry to get a "free pass" mmmm Wonder Why?)
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To: Issaquahking
"Of the 58,000 + who died in Vietnam, how many did Hanoi Jane send to the grave? I guess you have to be a senator, or a B!tch actress, to avoid prosecution???"

Money buys a lot.

There are 2 standards in America.

These traitors enjoy the "privileged" ranks.
59 posted on 04/10/2005 9:49:10 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Be wary of the "Move On" FReepers! They want Hanoi Kerry to get a "free pass" mmmm Wonder Why?)
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