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The Minutemen Will Make A Fool Of President Bush
GDO Online ^ | 4/8/05

Posted on 04/08/2005 1:46:00 AM PDT by BurbankKarl

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To: Caipirabob

I feel totally the same way - thanks for putting it into words!


41 posted on 04/08/2005 5:19:03 AM PDT by shattered
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To: Tallguy

All the proof you need is how Alan Colmes acted last night while talking w/ Simcox.

I used to have a modicum of respect for Colmes. I think he is a major masshole now.


42 posted on 04/08/2005 5:19:37 AM PDT by sauropod (Life under Dictatorship is far more safer, than behind the bars of your democracy. - Iraq Mujahadeen)
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To: Caipirabob
If the rats run a strong anti-illegal immigration platform they will wipe us out the next election.

They would be even less likely to follow through.

43 posted on 04/08/2005 5:19:38 AM PDT by biblewonk ("Ah yyeah, I'm gonna go ahead and have you move to the smokey back room")
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To: LisaMalia

When the Republican Party (and W.) returns to espousing Republican ideas, then maybe the criticism will stop.


44 posted on 04/08/2005 5:22:37 AM PDT by sauropod (Life under Dictatorship is far more safer, than behind the bars of your democracy. - Iraq Mujahadeen)
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To: MudSlide

Correct.


45 posted on 04/08/2005 5:23:27 AM PDT by sauropod (Life under Dictatorship is far more safer, than behind the bars of your democracy. - Iraq Mujahadeen)
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To: BurbankKarl

I recall a famous and widely admired Democrat who once said "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country." I guess that doesn't pertain to activities that make the state look foolish and weak.


46 posted on 04/08/2005 5:26:30 AM PDT by ValenB4 (God bless Pope John Paul II, a true man of peace.)
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To: billybudd

Amen! Bush refuses to do his constitutional duty. It is up to Congress to step up to the plate and do what needs to be done. If they don't do it, the Republican party is doomed.


47 posted on 04/08/2005 5:34:15 AM PDT by MBB1984
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To: sheana
"Republicans need to get in touch with their base on many issues."

IMO, the party is moving toward the middle at the expense of the loyal base, a political calculation that assumes loyalty will not change if key values are not upset. Abortion, 2A, and tax cuts have been traditional sacred cows that the republican leadership could take to the vote bank.

Immigration is a new value in the equation that they haven't sorted out yet and IMO, will be the one that causes people to realize their values are not being protected by the leadership.

Illegal immigration affects everyone. Be it the decline of wages in specific job markets,the hassle of having to deal with a store clerk who speaks poor english, or waiting for treatment for 4 hours in a hospital emergency room because 20 illegals needing primary care for their kids with runny noses and coughs got there first.

It will be the political topic of the next 4 years. I fear that the Bush/Rove calculation of engaging Syria and Iran (which needs to be done) is being counted on to keep illegal immigration off the front page and out of the voter's minds.

It's not going to work this time.
48 posted on 04/08/2005 5:38:08 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Caipirabob

"In the mean time, the Minutemen need a good marketing team to begin fundraising."

See my tagline

Support the Minute Man Project - http://www.minutemanproject.com/Donations.html


49 posted on 04/08/2005 5:39:52 AM PDT by adam_az (Support the Minute Man Project - http://www.minutemanproject.com/Donations.html)
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To: sauropod; MudSlide

The "guns have been laid" by the mainstream media as far as the Minutemen are concerned. One incident, no matter how minor, is going to get amplified all out of proportion. I hope the Minutemen are vetting supervising their volunteers very carefully.

The one sure way for them to look bad is to have some open-border sympathizer to penetrate the group and then rough-up an illegal. The other way that I can see to sabotage the Minutemen would be from the Mexican side of the border: send over a bunch of thugs to deliberately attack a small party of Minutemen with the idea of getting them to pull their weapons.


50 posted on 04/08/2005 5:41:07 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: backhoe; newgeezer
For whatever my powers as a prognosticator are worth, I believe that uncontrolled, illegal immigration, and "the border" will be classic wedge or stealth issues in the 2006 and 2008 elections-- the side which best articulates and promotes a way of dealing with these will be unstoppable.

Unfortunately, you are completely wrong and I am a good example of why. I'm quite the conservative Christian type but I'm here in Cedar Rapids Iowa and have absolutely no knowledge of the situation at the borders. My impression, as with so many of my conservative friends, has been that they are just nice folks that want to work her in the USA. And that we would be faithless Christians not to be willing to share the wealth. Imagine the liberals at the coasts who have very little experience with immigrants. They don't even know this issue exists and will still vote their liberal principles.

51 posted on 04/08/2005 5:46:39 AM PDT by biblewonk ("Ah yyeah, I'm gonna go ahead and have you move to the smokey back room")
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To: gulfcoast6

Sorry pal but it is a waste of time. They don't care and will not do anything about it - ever.


52 posted on 04/08/2005 5:49:20 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: MBB1984
"Amen! Bush refuses to do his constitutional duty."

Bush will be impeached when the next terrorist attack originates from the Mexican border. Two hospitals in my area went bankrupt and closed in the last year because of illegal aliens.

53 posted on 04/08/2005 5:50:06 AM PDT by BobS
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To: Rennes Templar
If I were POTUS, I would solve it in acouple months

How?

54 posted on 04/08/2005 5:50:08 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: BurbankKarl

President Bush is the only one making himself look foolish in this situation.

He has a Choice.

Lead, Follow or get the hell out of the way.

So far he has not chosen to either lead or follow.

At least he's staying out of the way.


55 posted on 04/08/2005 5:51:54 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (3-7-77 (No that's not a Date))
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To: sheana
Ijust can't see much difference between the Dems and the Republicans anymore

When the Democrats get back in power again you will see the difference, but then it will be to late.

56 posted on 04/08/2005 5:52:36 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: biblewonk

Well hold onto your hat but.....it is coming to your town soon. Illegal immigration is NOT just a border issue anymore. Just wait til you can't drive thru parts of your town, can't find a hospital left open, can't find a job because you do not speak spanish.
Illegals are spreading out across the country. Just look at California's stats and sit on your hands and wait til it hits Iowa, because eventually it will.


57 posted on 04/08/2005 5:53:19 AM PDT by sheana
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To: biblewonk; backhoe

The only difference I could see immigration having in Election '08 is if it could turn California into a red state. But, for that to happen, Californians are going to have to be WAY more upset about it than in the past, AND the Republicans are going to have to nominate a winner.


58 posted on 04/08/2005 5:53:27 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
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To: sauropod
The fact is that immigration has always been a problem for this nation and always will be-people want to come here!

So, how would you solve it?

59 posted on 04/08/2005 5:54:11 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: BurbankKarl

I listened to an interview of the leader of the Minutemen on my way home from work last night (on Hannity's show). The vigilante comment was mentioned in a 'I wish he had said it differently' kind of way. The gentleman from the Minutemen, however, indicated that the President was behind them in this effort.


60 posted on 04/08/2005 5:59:11 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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