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Granddaughter yanks grandma's feeding tube
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | April 7, 2005 | Sarah Foster

Posted on 04/07/2005 5:34:06 PM PDT by News Hunter

Edited on 04/07/2005 5:39:05 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

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To: MACVSOG68
Not trying to be argumentative, as I'm sure you are well versed in the law, but in probate matters are all relatives of any type always considered interested parties? Gaddy clearly would be as she was a direct descendent, but not sure of the others, especially if Gaddy certified she had been the sole caretaker for 10 years.

Oh, another thought. If Gaddy is really a skunk, she may have told the judge that she is the only living relative. Who knows. But if the hospice stalled Mae's sister while Gaddy went to the judge, whoa. Unethical. Still legal though. Perfectly legal.

As you can see in the GA statute, grandkids are not considered competent to make medical decisions for their grandparents, unless the grandparent expressly gives them the power, or unless a court gives the grandkid the power. In this case, it is a court-granted power.

521 posted on 04/09/2005 8:20:11 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt
My uninformed belief is thatthe 3 doctor panel is not charged with making a conclusion of "terminal." I think they are charged with choosing a course of treatment.

It would almost seem imperative that a course of treatment would by definition depend on the prognosis of the patient, ergo the terminal nature of Mae's illness.

522 posted on 04/09/2005 8:22:37 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: Cboldt

Perhaps Gaddy made the case that she was a de facto guardian for 10 years, but in any case, the issue of ex-parte is moot and was overridden by the Monday hearing involving all parties. Now WND has added much more information which seems to mitigate the horrors of its original release, including the judges order to Gaddy to ensure all proper nutrition and hydration for Mae.


523 posted on 04/09/2005 8:27:01 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: MACVSOG68

So I presume a cheap insult where none was given you is your response to a thoughtful post?----yes.


524 posted on 04/09/2005 8:34:07 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Advanced Directive -- don't step on my blue suede shoes.)
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To: MACVSOG68
Perhaps Gaddy made the case that she was a de facto guardian for 10 years, but in any case, the issue of ex-parte is moot and was overridden by the Monday hearing involving all parties. Now WND has added much more information which seems to mitigate the horrors of its original release, including the judges order to Gaddy to ensure all proper nutrition and hydration for Mae.

Gaddy in fact holds a written POA.

As for mitigating the horrors of the initial release, the nephew is reported to have sent an e-mail after the Monday hearing (which included the order to provide "all proper nutrtion"), wherein he asserts that Mae is not intubated, adn therefore is not receiving an amount of nutrition that will sustain her life. "Proper nutition" is different for a terminal patient, than it is for a healthy body.

It is puzzling. Why would the nephew or Mae's sister be upset in the least? Unless they think that Mae's life is being shortened. But, as we know, shortening of innocent life is perfectly legal, as long as the paperwork is in order.

525 posted on 04/09/2005 8:37:45 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: MACVSOG68
Go for it.

You will be proven wrong.........

Where in the world do people like you come from///////////

526 posted on 04/09/2005 8:38:36 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Advanced Directive -- don't step on my blue suede shoes.)
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To: beyond the sea
So I presume a cheap insult where none was given you is your response to a thoughtful post?----yes.

Well, we all communicate on a level consistent with our abilities and comfort level.

527 posted on 04/09/2005 8:39:53 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: MACVSOG68

Find a life............... or get a life.


528 posted on 04/09/2005 8:41:25 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Advanced Directive -- don't step on my blue suede shoes.)
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To: MACVSOG68

You are clueless...... or soulless.


529 posted on 04/09/2005 8:42:50 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Advanced Directive -- don't step on my blue suede shoes.)
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To: Cboldt
It is puzzling. Why would the nephew or Mae's sister be upset in the least? Unless they think that Mae's life is being shortened. But, as we know, shortening of innocent life is perfectly legal, as long as the paperwork is in order.

I don't know the answer to that, but some on FR have looked into Ken Mullinax and have questions about his politics. Frequently in these kinds of issues, there is no good guy/bad guy. It may turn out that this also is such a case.

530 posted on 04/09/2005 8:43:12 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: MACVSOG68
But you were taking her [best interests] "statement" as true, while questioning anything that might mitigate the WND story.

I don't think so, but I can understand how you might reach that conclusion. I used the report to illustrate that "best interests" is subjective, without meaning to accord accuracy to any side.

531 posted on 04/09/2005 8:43:14 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: robertpaulsen
Mae Magouirk has been receiving nourishment since April 4th.

Good!!!! If that is true!

532 posted on 04/09/2005 8:46:27 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Advanced Directive -- don't step on my blue suede shoes.)
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To: MACVSOG68
I don't know the answer to that, but some on FR have looked into Ken Mullinax and have questions about his politics. Frequently in these kinds of issues, there is no good guy/bad guy. It may turn out that this also is such a case.

Yeah. I read that too. My comment on that is that it is possible to both be a "vile DEM operative" and be concerned that your Aunt Mae's life is being improperly shortened. THose who bring his politcal status into a discussion of the reports of his Aunt's health, etc. are not clarifying the discussion of his aunt's health.

As for being neutral in this case, no good/bad guy, I suspect this family is fractured regardless of how long Mae lives. Mae's sister is stressed out, as is Ken, so "something" is going on, and that "something" isn't good.

My sentiments happen to coincide more with Ken than with Gaddy. My principles are pretty clear if you read my posting history on this and the Shiavo cases.

533 posted on 04/09/2005 8:51:16 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: beyond the sea
Where in the world do people like you come from///////////

Schools where critical thinking is taught.

534 posted on 04/09/2005 8:55:13 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: beyond the sea
Find a life............... or get a life.

What's wrong, can't answer the question?

535 posted on 04/09/2005 8:57:25 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: beyond the sea
You are clueless...... or soulless.

Again, why not just answer the questions posed. Maybe it's time for your mom and dad to cut off your computer priveleges. When you mix with adults, you need to act like an adult. oh, BTW, you might want to read the latest information from your great WND, which now appears to begin telling the real story.

536 posted on 04/09/2005 9:01:02 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: MACVSOG68
You will be proven foolish on this matter. I understand your skepticism.......... but you are just acting "foolish", and you are acting as "the devils advocate". That is not a good place to live or be.

You have no sense in this matter, imo.

537 posted on 04/09/2005 9:01:36 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Advanced Directive -- don't step on my blue suede shoes.)
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To: Cboldt
I don't think so, but I can understand how you might reach that conclusion. I used the report to illustrate that "best interests" is subjective, without meaning to accord accuracy to any side.

I hope this turns out well for Mae, and that it is much ado about nothing.

538 posted on 04/09/2005 9:02:51 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: FormerACLUmember

Anyone who acts against a relative's living will should automatically forfeit any part of the estate left by that relative, should they die as a result.
Cambodia had its killing fields, and the US has its hospices. What a grisley business the death mongers run!


539 posted on 04/09/2005 9:06:34 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Cboldt
As for being neutral in this case, no good/bad guy, I suspect this family is fractured regardless of how long Mae lives. Mae's sister is stressed out, as is Ken, so "something" is going on, and that "something" isn't good.

What may prove interesting is the extent of help Mullinax has provided over say the last ten years, when it appeared that Gaddy was her support mechanism. Also note that Mae's sister aligned herself with Gaddy in the guardianship issue with the judge.

540 posted on 04/09/2005 9:07:32 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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