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Granddaughter yanks grandma's feeding tube
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | April 7, 2005 | Sarah Foster

Posted on 04/07/2005 5:34:06 PM PDT by News Hunter

Edited on 04/07/2005 5:39:05 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

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To: muawiyah
As soon as you heard the granddaughter found a judge willing to give her an ex parte hearing on Friday, with a ruling good for the weekend, it's at that point you should have immediately begun to doubt the granddaughter's interest in grandma's good health as well as the judge's integrity.

And she may not have the grandma's health as her primary interest. But were you aware that it was Gaddy who was feeding granny daily? Were you aware that the judge held a full hearing on Monday? Were you aware that all parties reached an agreement? As I indicated earlier, those are the things you won't find in a WND "news" report because it would tend to mitigate against their agenda. And before I join the vigilante crowd, I would at least like to hear the whole story.

421 posted on 04/08/2005 5:19:46 PM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: MACVSOG68
You may be correct, but at the end the ONLY medical evaluation done of the woman's brain had been performed in the early 1990s ~ that was that CAT scan.

Several other diagnostic tools had been invented since that time and any court worthy of the name would have demanded the best in evidence.

422 posted on 04/08/2005 5:20:50 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Several other diagnostic tools had been invented since that time and any court worthy of the name would have demanded the best in evidence.

By its very nature, there will always be some subjectivity in any medical evaluation. But I hope this whole Schiavo affair causes states to relook at their laws involving guardianship, living wills and distinguishing between life support and feeding mechanisms. In that respect, this may have done a lot of good.

423 posted on 04/08/2005 5:27:41 PM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: MACVSOG68
It wasn't until Monday that Gaddy asserted she was feeding the grandmother. That doesn't mean grandma was getting fed.

BTW, I am well aware of how the sick and elderly may well not seem to want to eat.

424 posted on 04/08/2005 5:29:04 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: MACVSOG68
The Florida law certain seems to be lax. False teeth, fillings and crowns could readily be construed to be mechanical assistance down there.

If we could check through all the records, bet you there's an instance of someone having an elederly relative's false teeth pulled.

I simply can't imagine other cases needing to be as sophisticated as this one.

425 posted on 04/08/2005 5:31:37 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: The Coopster

Perhaps you missed the implied "only."

Government exists to do ONLY that which we cannot do for ourselves. You know, like providing for the common defense.

Tell me how liberal that is.


426 posted on 04/08/2005 5:32:14 PM PDT by Xenalyte (It's a Zen thing, you know, like how many babies fit in a tire.)
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To: muawiyah
The "RIGHT" didn't maneuver the Schindler case into the hands of the government ~ Mikey Schivo did.

Really. Who petitioned the court first in Nov of 2003 - to remove MS as guardian?

And then again in 1996 - who petitioned for medical records?

Who again started the maneuvering?

427 posted on 04/08/2005 5:34:35 PM PDT by The Coopster
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To: muawiyah
It wasn't until Monday that Gaddy asserted she was feeding the grandmother. That doesn't mean grandma was getting fed.

No, but it doesn't mean she wasn't either. It is simply some additional new information that WND and Glen Beck forgot to mention. I would like to know, but if she was in fact feeding granny, then it would seem that alone materially changes what WND is alleging.

428 posted on 04/08/2005 5:43:52 PM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: Xenalyte

Fair enough - though my opinion is that people ought to be able to work this out for themselves, save any PROOF of wrongdoing - and thusly don't need the government to "do for us"

And by proof, I mean incontrovertable, valid proof - not conjecture based on opinion.

Main point here - before the regular flame crew shows up to jerk their knees - the Shindlers didn't like what was going on, and got the courts involved to solve a family dispute. I'm not comfortable with that.

To me, it's very similar to 2000 - the Democrats didn't like the way things were going - so they got the courts involved. Were any of us comfortable with that? You can talk about it being "more important", but legally it's no different.


429 posted on 04/08/2005 5:44:00 PM PDT by The Coopster
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To: The Coopster
Mikey filed a medical malpractice case. It became an issue in the public domain with that single action.

Or, maybe it became an issue when he called 911.

430 posted on 04/08/2005 5:45:20 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
The Florida law certain seems to be lax. False teeth, fillings and crowns could readily be construed to be mechanical assistance down there.

I suspect that most states including Florida need to review their whole guardianship program.

431 posted on 04/08/2005 5:45:39 PM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: MACVSOG68

Maybe no one knew about the what the granddaughter says she was doing but the granddaughter. We need some cooboration of her allegation.


432 posted on 04/08/2005 5:46:15 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

The malpractice suit (which he won) had ZERO to do with the Schindler's later actions.

Or are you saying that the $$ was the reason for them getting involved?


433 posted on 04/08/2005 5:49:51 PM PDT by The Coopster
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To: muawiyah
Maybe no one knew about the what the granddaughter says she was doing but the granddaughter. We need some cooboration of her allegation

I agree, and it would seem simple to speak with hospice workers who may have seen it. It's part of finding out the whole story.

434 posted on 04/08/2005 6:04:00 PM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Big Bump!!


435 posted on 04/08/2005 6:06:54 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: The Coopster
Terri's condition was not a public question until Mikey went to court.

You make of it what you want, but that's a fact!

436 posted on 04/08/2005 6:08:27 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: MACVSOG68
The earlier post that had personal information in it didn't target the issue, but we could have called couldn't we?

Is the fact that a human being is eating or not eating a private or public matter?

437 posted on 04/08/2005 6:09:39 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SweetPilotofCanuckistan

If the facts in this story are true then somebody should be held accountable for starving this woman to death against her wishes.It seems as though some people view life as something that is worthless after a person is struck with an illness.


438 posted on 04/08/2005 6:11:42 PM PDT by rdcorso (In America Criminals Have More Rights Than The Disabled.What A Disgrace)
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To: muawiyah

I'm not making anything of it. YOU are mixing two completely separate actions/circumstances. His malpractice suit - regardless of whether or not it became a matter of public record - has nothing to do with the Schindler's actions.

Feel free to point out how one has ANYTHING to do with the other. I'm not trying to be antagonistic, just not understanding how two completely unrelated issues (other than they both involve Terri) are somehow related, in your mind.


439 posted on 04/08/2005 6:14:25 PM PDT by The Coopster
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To: muawiyah
Is the fact that a human being is eating or not eating a private or public matter?

Normally I would think it a private matter, but Ken Mullinax made it public with his version of events. Now some additional information has come out apparently either adding to or contradicting original reports. So I would assume it now to be public, as a probate court has held 2 hearings.

440 posted on 04/08/2005 6:20:40 PM PDT by MACVSOG68
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