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Dems Showed Soros Secret Rove Plan
National Review Online ^ | April 6, 2005 | Byron York

Posted on 04/06/2005 5:46:33 AM PDT by Quilla

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To: Holicheese

, didn't this prove that there was coordination between the Dems and the 527 groups?




from my perspective, yes it does.


161 posted on 04/06/2005 9:46:48 PM PDT by BoBToMatoE
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To: JesseJane; Calpernia
Thanks for the ping!

A little more on Halperin:

Google - Morton Halperin + Weather Underground

Morton H. Halperin - Director Open Society Institute DC                

Morton H. Halperin - Institute for Policy Studies   and more  Institute for Policy Studies  

Morton H. Halperin  - Biographical Information

NOMINATION OF DR. MORTON H. HALPERIN (Senate - July 01,1993)

The Case Against the Halperin Nomination [Second Edition]

FROM THE WASHINGTON TIMES, JUNE 28, 1993

Morton Halperin and his ultra-radical Center for National Security Studies

Betrayal, duplicity & treachery  (Halperin)record of hatred for the security forces of the United States since his opposition to the Vietnam War

Father of ABC's Mark Halperin

The ABC's of Media Bias  Front Page  10-14-04

 

162 posted on 04/06/2005 10:07:42 PM PDT by windchime (Hillary: "I've always been a preying person")
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To: Calpernia

>>>> Blue Staters are Too

::whines:: But, but, I'm a blue state denizen!



Cal, me too--I live in California. I'm here as Rove's special undercover operative to secretly counteract all Democratic propaganda here. In the filth but not of it. And just a LITTLE MORE truth and this whole state tips GOP. Make that a lot more truth....


163 posted on 04/06/2005 10:44:06 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (ATTN. MARXIST RED MSM: I RESENT your "RED STATE" switcheroo using our ELECTORAL MAP as PROPAGANDA!)
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To: Southack
Bang on - you are so right. Think I could just add this little bitty link here? :)

The Rockefeller Memo

1) Pull the majority along as far as we can on issues that may lead to major new disclosures regarding improper or questionable conduct by administration officials. We are having some success in that regard.

For example, in addition to the President's State of the Union speech, the chairman [Sen. Pat Roberts] has agreed to look at the activities of the office of the Secretary of Defense, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, as well as Secretary Bolton's office at the State Department.

The fact that the chairman supports our investigations into these offices and cosigns our requests for information is helpful and potentially crucial. We don't know what we will find but our prospects for getting the access we seek is far greater when we have the backing of the majority. [We can verbally mention some of the intriguing leads we are pursuing.]

Um. It just seemed so "fitting". :)

164 posted on 04/07/2005 3:47:44 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Southack

I have always greatly appreciated your posts, and your #141 was one of even your better posts.:) Thanks for your insight and your gift for summing things up so cogently.


165 posted on 04/07/2005 7:17:37 AM PDT by xJones
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To: EllaMinnow
Did you ever see the money, "The Sting"? Good movie and at the end the avaricious crooked Doyle Lonnagan (played by Robert Shaw) is being hurried out of a basement which was presented to him as an illegal horse race betting establishment. They have an inside wire line to horse racing tracks and supposedly you can't lose there. He keeps shouting, "My money! I want MY money back!", as they hustle him out after the sting comes in.

Lonnagan obviously has the feeling that he (of all people!) has been swindled, but he knows he'll never able to prove it.

For some reason, I wonder if George Soros didn't react somewhat similarly on Nov. 3, 2004.:)

166 posted on 04/07/2005 7:35:40 AM PDT by xJones
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To: xJones

Darn, money = movie.


167 posted on 04/07/2005 7:38:32 AM PDT by xJones
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To: Quilla
"You have questionably obtained copies of the Republican's secret plans? EXCELLENT!"


168 posted on 04/07/2005 7:43:51 AM PDT by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: xJones
For some reason, I wonder if George Soros didn't react somewhat similarly on Nov. 3, 2004.:)

It makes me smile to think he did. :)

169 posted on 04/07/2005 8:37:55 AM PDT by EllaMinnow
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To: HamiltonJay

"I am a die hard conservative, but the Republicans have to answer BIG TIME for this one!"

FWIW, I am Republican and I think they did the right thing. We are too soft on deadbeats and we should make it harder for people to use bankruptcy as a way to escape responsibility.

If we lower the costs to others of bankrupcy, we lower the cost of credit, banking, etc... Kind of like how tort reform in Texas helped us get lower insurance rates. Yes, it really happened, I saw it in my insurance bill.


170 posted on 04/07/2005 6:52:22 PM PDT by WOSG (Liberating Iraq - http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com)
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To: WOSG
FWIW, I am Republican and I think they did the right thing. We are too soft on deadbeats and we should make it harder for people to use bankruptcy as a way to escape responsibility.

I have no doubt you do believe this. However, based on the statement you have made, you are showing you are very ignorant of the facts of the matter when it comes to bankruptcy and particularly credit card companies. This bill has nothing to do with being tougher on "deadbeats"... it has everything to do with using government to bail out businesses for HORRENDOUS practices.

The notion that deadbeats are driving bankruptcy numbers just is not remotely supported by the facts. The two biggest causes for bankruptcy filings have nothign to do with folks who run up debts and don't intend to pay.. in fact that's not even in the top 10, and the credit card companies know this!

There is a direct correllation between solicitations for credit mailed out and bankruptcy filings.. banks mail out over 5 BILLION solicitations per year! They are offering credit cards to dead people, to dogs, to hs students with no income and no job! In fact that's who they are targeting with a vengence now... they are even doing brand identity marketing to preschoolers and gradeschoolers!

If you hand out credit left right and center to anyone, breathing or not, you are going to get burned, and you should as a responsible business be tightening up your lending practices.. or go out of busines from the losses...Banks are doing neither, instead they basically BOUGHT the congress in a rediculous sell out.

This bill is nothing more than that... the Advocates who stand to make the most money professionally (other than banks) by this bill are the Chapter 13 attorney's, since this will make Chap 7 harder.. .and guess what, they are even against it, because it is a horrible abomination as well.

This bill and the actions of congress around it, represent everything that is wrong with the american political process. The republican's have lived up to every negative stereotype of being pro business at the expense of the individual and willing to sell their souls for cash in relation to this bill! Its horrible, its wrong, and its going to make things far worse rather than better. This bill officially ends any responsibility coming down on the bad practices of banks... and uses the force of government to cover up their ineptitudes.

It's shameless, its wrong, and there will be a reckoning for it... Instead of having a nice controlled contraction of credit by responsible bank policies... we are going to wind up with a huge rapid contraction when all these ducks come home to roost at once! Its bad policy, its bad law, and its setting the stage for very large problem comign down the pipe.

171 posted on 04/08/2005 6:18:06 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

"There is a direct correllation between solicitations for credit mailed out and bankruptcy filings.. banks mail out over 5 BILLION solicitations per year! They are offering credit cards to dead people, to dogs, to hs students with no income and no job! In fact that's who they are targeting with a vengence now... they are even doing brand identity marketing to preschoolers and gradeschoolers!"

Uh, that's why it's called junk mail.
I get about a billion of that 5 billion load ... I throw it out. Maybe others should as well.

"it has everything to do with using government to bail out businesses for HORRENDOUS practices."

Getting people to pay their bills is not a govt bailout.
The govt was making it too easy to be a deadbeat and a scam artist with overly lax bk rules that let people write off debts then go back to high living with no wages garnished. Now its changin.


"This bill officially ends any responsibility coming down on the bad practices of banks"

uh, not true, they are regulated up the wazoo, and if someone ... anyway, speaking of responsibility, in my book people are responsible for their own actions. No bank is forcing anyone to take credit.

"The republican's have lived up to every negative stereotype of being pro business at the expense of the individual"

I am an individual. I like the bill and it helps me and ANY INDIVIDUAL WHO IS LIKEWISE RESPONSIBLE WITH THEIR CREDIT. This bill only punishes the foolish, irresponsible, who have made bad choices and want to get out of paying for them.


172 posted on 04/08/2005 6:39:49 PM PDT by WOSG (Liberating Iraq - http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com)
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To: windchime

Thanks for the list WC....

~~sorry for late response~~~computer issues~~~~ :( sorry..


173 posted on 04/10/2005 8:17:57 PM PDT by JesseJane (Divided we fall.)
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