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Terri Schiavo Cremated Amid Family Feud
Fox News Alert ^ | 4/2/05 | Fox News

Posted on 04/02/2005 11:39:29 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Edited on 04/02/2005 5:10:27 PM PST by Lead Moderator. [history]

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To: pbrown
Go away.....

Nobody asked you to read or respond to my posts.

541 posted on 04/02/2005 11:11:29 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Jorge

Such folks are conflicted. It seems a shame to force their self destructive wish to totality.


542 posted on 04/02/2005 11:11:48 PM PST by The Red Zone (Go to Florida, the sun-shame state, to be schiavoed, to greer someone, and to felos a patient.)
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To: Jorge

Scat.


543 posted on 04/02/2005 11:12:10 PM PST by The Red Zone (Go to Florida, the sun-shame state, to be schiavoed, to greer someone, and to felos a patient.)
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To: Fred Nerks
And I'm too tired to walk you through it, sorry.

Fine.
But don't expect me to do your homework for you when it comes to supporting your claims.
It's not my job.

544 posted on 04/02/2005 11:13:44 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Jorge

See post #530. Please do not post to me again.


545 posted on 04/02/2005 11:16:35 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: The Red Zone
Such folks are conflicted. It seems a shame to force their self destructive wish to totality.

So people who have terminal diseases and are suffering, wish to die sooner rather than later, are merely "conflicted" if their body holds out longer than they want.

Right.

Unfortunately those of us who have seen terminal patients linger on know better.

546 posted on 04/02/2005 11:20:09 PM PST by Jorge
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

He controlled her until the end...with help from Felos.


547 posted on 04/02/2005 11:20:59 PM PST by Libertina (God's gift of life is precious at all ages, from birth to death.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

You have nailed the connection with the Cult of Scientology to their push for euthanasia. Incredible that this cult has such a following. It is a total fraud devised as a tax shelter for L. Ron Hubbard who wanted to increase his profits from his science fiction book sales.


548 posted on 04/02/2005 11:21:02 PM PST by jonrick46
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To: Jorge

MYTH: Terri is PVS (Persistent vegetative state)
FACT: The definition of PVS in Florida Statue 765.101:
Persistent vegetative state means a permanent and irreversible condition of unconsciousness in which there is:

(a) The absence of voluntary action or cognitive behavior of ANY kind.
(b) An inability to communicate or interact purposefully with the environment.

Terri's behavior does not meet the medical or statutory definition of persistent vegetative state. Terri responds to stimuli, tries to communicate verbally, follows limited commands, laughs or cries in interaction with loved ones, physically distances herself from irritating or painful stimulation and watches loved ones as they move around her. None of these behaviors are simple reflexes and are, instead, voluntary and cognitive. Though Terri has limitations, she does interact purposefully with her environment.

MYTH: Terri does not need rehabilitation
FACT: Florida Statute 744.3215 Rights of persons determined incapacitated:

(1) A person who has been determined to be incapacitated retains the right
(i) To receive necessary services and rehabilitation.

This is a retained right that a guardian cannot take away. Additionally, it does not make exception for PVS patients. Terri has illegally been denied rehabilitation - as many nurses have sworn in affidavits.

MYTH: Removal of food was both legal and court-ordered.
FACT: The courts had only allowed removal of Terri's feeding tube, not regular food and water. Terri's husband illegally ordered this. The law only allows the removal of "life-prolonging procedures," not regular food and water:

Florida Statute 765.309 Mercy killing or euthanasia not authorized; suicide distinguished. Nothing in this chapter shall be construed to condone, authorize, or approve mercy killing or euthanasia, or to permit any affirmative or deliberate act or omission to end life other than to permit the natural process of dying.

MYTH: Many doctors have said that there is no hope for her.
FACT: Dr. Victor Gambone testified that he visits Terri 3 times a year. His visits last for approximately 10 minutes. He also testified, after viewing the court videotapes at Terri’s recent trial, that he was surprised to see Terri’s level of awareness. This doctor is part of a team hand-picked by her husband, Michael Schiavo, shortly before he filed to have Terri’s feeding removed. Contrary to Schiavo’s team, 14 independent medical professionals (6 of them neurologists) have given either statements or testimony that Terri is NOT in a Persistent Vegetative State. Additionally, there has never been any medical dispute of Terri’s ability to swallow. Even with this compelling evidence, Terri’s husband, Michael Schiavo, has denied any form of therapy for her for over 10 years.

Dr. Melvin Greer, appointed by Schiavo, testified that a doctor need not examine a patient to know the appropriate medical treatment. He spent approximately 45 minutes with Terri. Dr. Peter Bambakidis, appointed by Judge Greer, spent approximately 30 minutes with Terri. Dr. Ronald Cranford, also appointed by Schiavo and who has publicly labeled himself “Dr. Death”, spent less than 45 minutes examining and interacting with Terri.

MYTH: This is just a family battle over money.
FACT: In 1992, Terri was awarded nearly one million dollars by a malpractice jury and an out-of-court malpractice settlement which was designated for future medical expenses. Of these funds, less than $50,000 remains today. The financial records revealing how Terri’s medical fund money is managed are SEALED from inspection. Court records, however, show that Judge Greer has approved the spending down of Terri’s medical fund on Schiavo’s attorney’s fees - though it was expressly awarded to Terri for her medical care. Schiavo’s primary attorney, George Felos, has received upwards of $400,000 dollars since Schiavo hired him. This same attorney, at the expense of Terri’s medical fund, publicly likened Terri to a “houseplant” and has used Terri’s case on national television to promote his newly published book.

MYTH: Michael Schiavo volunteered to donate the balance of the inheritance to charity.
FACT: In October, 1998, Schiavo’s attorney proposed that, if Terri’s parents would agree to her death by starvation, Schiavo would donate his inheritance to charity. The proposal came after a court-appointed Guardian Ad Litem cited Schiavo’s conflict of interest since he stood to inherit the balance of Terri’s medical fund upon her death. This one and only offer stated “if the proposal is not fully accepted within 10 days, it shall automatically be withdrawn”. Naturally, Terri’s parents immediately rejected the offer.

MYTH: Terri's Medical Trust fund has been used to care for her.
FACT: The following expenditures have been paid directly from Terri's Medical Trust fund, with the approval of Judge George Greer:
Summary of expenses paid from Terri’s 1.2 Million Dollar medical trust fund (jury awarded 1992)
NOTE: In his November 1993 Petition Schiavo alleges the 1993 guardianship asset balance as $761,507.50

Atty Gwyneth Stanley
Atty Deborah Bushnell
Atty Steve Nilson
Atty Pacarek
Atty Richard Pearse (GAL)
Atty George Felos
$10,668.05
$65,607.00
$7,404.95
$1,500.00
$4,511.95
$397,249.99

Other

1st Union/South Trust Bank
$55,459.85

Michael Schiavo
$10,929.95

Total $545,852.34







Monsignor Thaddeus Malanowski expresses dismay after he is ordered not to give Communion to Terri.

Florida Laws

FS 744.102: To "meet essential requirements for health or safety" means to take those actions necessary to provide the health care, food, shelter, clothing, personal hygiene, or other care without which serious and imminent physical injury or illness is more likely than not to occur.




Copyright 2005 Terri Schindler-Schiavo Foundation


549 posted on 04/02/2005 11:21:06 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. Link on my Page. free pdf.)
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To: Jorge

Have you dived into their mind like Felos claims to do?

We hear stories all the time of people dying of a "broken heart." It's a real phenomenon. If someone's heart isn't broken all the way, you want to hasten it? Ghoul.


550 posted on 04/02/2005 11:21:31 PM PST by The Red Zone (Go to Florida, the sun-shame state, to be schiavoed, to greer someone, and to felos a patient.)
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To: supercat

Exactly....they made her worse and then used her bad condition as an excuse to kill her.


551 posted on 04/02/2005 11:22:31 PM PST by snarkytart (You're Gutless. You're Undressed.)
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To: Jorge

Jorge.....Spanish for George....is that you Judge Greer?


552 posted on 04/02/2005 11:22:38 PM PST by Aria
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To: The Red Zone
Scat.

The substance of your posts exactly.

553 posted on 04/02/2005 11:22:39 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Jorge

Certainly they are of your posts.


554 posted on 04/02/2005 11:23:20 PM PST by The Red Zone (Go to Florida, the sun-shame state, to be schiavoed, to greer someone, and to felos a patient.)
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To: supercat

I am watching this so called balanced piece about Terri on A&E.......a disgrace.

Did you see A&E's show on this case????


555 posted on 04/02/2005 11:25:19 PM PST by snarkytart (You're Gutless. You're Undressed.)
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To: Aria
Jorge.....Spanish for George....is that you Judge Greer?

How silly.

556 posted on 04/02/2005 11:25:48 PM PST by Jorge
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To: SheLion

I hope the cult of Scientology money is not pouring into pockets willing to do their bidding.


557 posted on 04/02/2005 11:25:57 PM PST by jonrick46
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To: Jorge

Jorge, Jorge, Jorge of the jungle, fiend to you and me...


558 posted on 04/02/2005 11:26:43 PM PST by The Red Zone (Go to Florida, the sun-shame state, to be schiavoed, to greer someone, and to felos a patient.)
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To: Jorge

Hmmm.... Jorge.... Pennsylvania.... any relation to the Schiavo clan?


560 posted on 04/02/2005 11:28:53 PM PST by antceecee
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