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Vatican Bracing for Papal Succession
Catholic World News ^ | 4/1/05

Posted on 04/01/2005 7:36:44 AM PST by marshmallow

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To: Lou L
Glad you asked me.

I'm not sure if Brown mentioned this but the "Cardinal Fixer" is already in the Vatican. He entered disguised as a Swiss guard and his identity is secret. He keeps all the cardinals in line and tells them whom to vote for. He is in direct contact with and receives instructions from the hierarchy of Opus Dei. Any dissent or trouble is immediately taken care of by Opus Dei who have a special "enforcement" unit in the Papal apartments.

Those voting in the conclave will presently be gathering to take part in some secret pre-conclave ceremonies, the exact details of which you needn't know, suffice to say they involve removing considerable amounts of clothing and the exposition of naked flesh.

So to answer your question, no, all exits have been covered and there is no chance of any hanky-panky before we get the next Pope.

By the way, what did you say your name was again? I'm an Opus Dei adjunct and keep tabs on those who ask particularly penetrating questions.

41 posted on 04/01/2005 8:31:47 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow
They vote. They burn the ballots. If there was no consensus, they mix straw with the ballots for white smoke. A successful vote has black smoke...
42 posted on 04/01/2005 8:31:50 AM PST by null and void (innocent, incapacitated, inconvenient, and insured - a lethal combination for Terri...)
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To: marshmallow
Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger...

I thought the proper reference to cardinal's full names was like "Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger". Has that officially changed?
43 posted on 04/01/2005 8:31:53 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: St. Johann Tetzel
Thank you for the update, St. Johann Tetzel. Have been praying for a miracle but "sometimes the answer is yes, sometimes no...." But, the prayers are always heard and there is comfort in that.
44 posted on 04/01/2005 8:33:10 AM PST by hummingbird ("If it wasn't for the insomnia, I could have gotten some sleep!")
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To: marshmallow

What a break for Mikey Skee-ah-bo-bo. This will drive his dastardly crime right out of the news cycle.


45 posted on 04/01/2005 8:33:28 AM PST by johnb838 (Blessed Are The Dead, Who Die In The Lord, For They Rest From Their Labors.)
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To: Churchillspirit

I am not a catholic but have seen this Pope twice,,once years ago in St Peter's square early in the morning riding across with a driver in a little jeep. He smiled and waved. I was astounded. Then years later in Baltimore, in a car, going up to the Cathedral for Mass. All Baltimore, even the non catholics, felt so good about that that day. I like him.


46 posted on 04/01/2005 8:33:48 AM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: Lou L
Anyone else read this? Thoughts?

No, but my understanding is that the historical claims are baseless, and that the book is pretty much worthless.

Dismantling the DaVinci Code.

47 posted on 04/01/2005 8:34:04 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: mike182d

Has Bill Clinton announced his intention to become the next pope?


48 posted on 04/01/2005 8:34:07 AM PST by Snardius
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To: null and void
They vote. They burn the ballots.

Just like touch screen voting.
49 posted on 04/01/2005 8:34:11 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: paleocon patriarch

Thanks. IIRC, it's said the next Pope will have a short reign, and then it's the Last Pope?


50 posted on 04/01/2005 8:34:40 AM PST by null and void (innocent, incapacitated, inconvenient, and insured - a lethal combination for Terri...)
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To: Lou L

Mindless drivel wriiten by a simpleton.


51 posted on 04/01/2005 8:35:43 AM PST by DarthVader (John "Diarrhea of the Mouth" Kerry = Vile Smelling Excrement)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
Just like touch screen voting.

Only with air polution...

52 posted on 04/01/2005 8:40:34 AM PST by null and void (innocent, incapacitated, inconvenient, and insured - a lethal combination for Terri...)
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To: cajungirl; cardinal4
I guess I'm a real geezer. I remember the passing of Pius XII, the elevation of John XXIII, his passing; the elevation of Paul VI, his passing; the elevation of John Paul I, his passing; the elevation of John Paul II.

I was fortunate enough to have been stationed in Rome in 1978. My good friend and I were walking up the Via Conciliazone, toward St. Peter's, one Sunday morning in October. We saw smoke begin to arise from the chimney and felt that we were witnesses to history, but the smoke turned out to be gray. A few evenings later, I was returning to the Embassy from a chow run, when I heard the Italian guards in the courtyard yelling "E' il polacco! E' il polacco!" (It's the Pole!) Cardinal4 has a framed photo of himself on the rope line at his school's audience very soon into John Paul II's papacy.

53 posted on 04/01/2005 8:40:50 AM PST by Ax
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To: cajungirl
I'm not a catholic either, which makes it all the more poignant how I feel about this man.

My late husband would be 72 now. He died at age 53 and bore a strong physical resemblance to the Pope. I've often thought over the years how he would have looked had he lived to grow old.

54 posted on 04/01/2005 8:41:33 AM PST by Churchillspirit (Anaheim Angels - 2002 World Series Champions)
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To: Ax

If Pius died sometimes in the fifties, I remember it and I think the confusing smoke was then.


55 posted on 04/01/2005 8:42:46 AM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: BlackElk; Loyalist; Cicero; null and void
As to the Identity of De Gloria Olivae, I wouldn't bet on the Benedictine hopes. Malachy's prophecies are best viewed and interpereted after the succession.

My bet is that the next Pope will be one of the younger Cardinals.

56 posted on 04/01/2005 8:43:38 AM PST by paleocon patriarch ("Never attribute to a conspiracy that which can be explained by incompetence.")
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To: Lou L
I recently read Dan Brown's (author of "Di Vinci Code") book, "Angels and Demons." It raises some very ominous possibilities of what could happen during the interrgnum period between a Pope's death and the naming of their successor. Anyone else read this? Thoughts?

It's fiction. Bad fiction, at that.

57 posted on 04/01/2005 8:43:39 AM PST by sinkspur (I'm in the WPPFF)
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To: paleocon patriarch

The "Peter the Roman" pope was a later insert.

The original work was only 111 Popes -- ending with De Gloria Olivae.

Prior to the 1969 Publication of the works Peter the Roman was inserted.

It is believed the line of Benedict will rise to seat of Peter -- as to if this will be final Pope; stay tuned.


58 posted on 04/01/2005 8:44:25 AM PST by Mordichia
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To: mike182d
Not to make anyone feel old here, but I wasn't even born yet when they had the last conclave. :-)

Gee, thanks. I was of age during the last two. Now I feel real old. Thanks a lot you young whippersnapper...:-)

59 posted on 04/01/2005 8:45:44 AM PST by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: marshmallow
The next Pope either needs to come from Africa/South America, or he needs to be Chinese - they are some on-fire, die-hard, no-hold-barred Catholics.

Personally I'm hoping for a Chinese Cardinal that has faced extreme persecuation and even faced death for his faith. There's a strength there that cannot be found in "comfortable" nations where there biggest issue with the Church is having to enforce rules on contraception because they're "unpopular."
60 posted on 04/01/2005 8:46:44 AM PST by mike182d ("Let fly the white flag of war." - Zapp Brannigan)
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