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LOST: A Trojan Horse on America's Shores
Human Events ^ | Posted Apr 1, 2005 | Oliver North

Posted on 04/01/2005 7:29:01 AM PST by Archon of the East

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These are just the national security implications of the treaty. There are other economic, commercial and financial obligations of LOST that are equally egregious. The treaty is evidence of the UN's long-standing commitment to redistributing wealth and technology from developed to "less-developed" countries and entities that "have not yet attained full independence or other self-governing status."

The idea that "deficiencies have been corrected" is a foolish idea when consideering anything from the international thugs. To socialist's all treaties and Constitution's are "flexible" so those corrected deficiencies will be re-interpreted at some point.

1 posted on 04/01/2005 7:29:02 AM PST by Archon of the East
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To: Archon of the East

What is the administration's purpose for this?


2 posted on 04/01/2005 7:33:18 AM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: Archon of the East

I dunno about Bush anymore...this...and the leaky borders...

is this the lesser of 2 evils????


3 posted on 04/01/2005 7:33:49 AM PST by Vaquero ("There is nothing lower than the human race - except the french." (Mark Twain))
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To: Archon of the East

And "the Beast" makes itself known.....


4 posted on 04/01/2005 7:35:31 AM PST by SouthernBoyupNorth ("For my wings are made of Tungsten, my flesh of glass and steel..........")
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To: Fenris6

It will create some initial economic benefits with regard to off shore oil drilling. but the long term implications IMO are not even close to being worth it.


5 posted on 04/01/2005 7:36:27 AM PST by Archon of the East (The Constitution is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: Archon of the East

Yes, what is the Administration's real motivation here. LOST will impede or prevent the US defense of the Republic of China (Taiwan). It is clear that we are most reluctant to aid Taiwan, maybe LOST will give us an alibi when we don't act.


6 posted on 04/01/2005 7:42:26 AM PST by Truth29
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To: B4Ranch; Happy2BMe; farmfriend

lost ping.


7 posted on 04/01/2005 7:43:34 AM PST by glock rocks (For the love of all that's good and decent, don't try this at home.)
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To: Truth29

What is the motivation is the million dollar question. Given the scope of the treaty it ceratinly can't be just one issue. I do believe it is the same motivation that has driven people in power for centuries, IMHO.


8 posted on 04/01/2005 7:49:54 AM PST by Archon of the East (The Constitution is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: Archon of the East
This noble-sounding language--a nautical Kellogg-Briand Pact updated for the 21st century--could "legally" prevent the United States from ever again launching an operation like Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan, the liberation of Iraq or a future defense of Taiwan or the Republic of Korea.

And you know China will not feel at all inhibited by this treaty when they decide to begin an amphibious invasion of Taiwan. And the UN, scared to death of confrontation with a power that will not back down, will stand by and say nothing.

9 posted on 04/01/2005 7:50:23 AM PST by Guard Dog (The strong will do what they can and the weak will suffer what they must)
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To: Archon of the East

The U.S. should attack this proposal with extreme prejudice. It is time to stand tall for America, and reject any and all Globalist, one-world programs and schemes. The U.S. Constitution the final, Supreme law of the land, period. All Representatives and Senators would be well advised to shoot this down, if they take into consideration the best Interests of this Great Country and its Citizens.

The U.S. clearly needs to forcefully reassert its Independence and break free from Global entanglements such as these. It's definitely high time for a totally different kind of political leadership and political ideology at all levels and, in turn, hopefully proposals like these will get shot down and not come back, ever.

I would like to see a President some day that takes a firm stand against globalist schemes and authorizes the military to start protecting and defending the Constitution with military force. The traitors seem to be coming out of the woodwork.

Screw the U.N., we should launch covert and direct actions anytime we damn well please. The littoral regions around CONUS belong to the U.S., NOT the U.N.

How long can our Sovereign nation stand?


10 posted on 04/01/2005 8:10:15 AM PST by Bald Eagle777 (OPSEC Saves Lives)
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To: Archon of the East
Good post. But, Ollie has forgotten something:

The REAL story about why Troy fell.

LOST is going to pass, and it is going to create cash flows for supranational organizations that will some day drawf the the cash flows of any single nation state. It is inevitable, b/c of the reality of what Laocoon teaches us. It is a shame, but inevitable.

11 posted on 04/01/2005 8:15:33 AM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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To: Guard Dog

If they ratify this treaty you can "KISS THE UNITED STATES GOODBY" The F--ng UN will have complete control of everything. The US will have to share any and all technology with everybody with no compensation or say so in how it's used.


12 posted on 04/01/2005 8:16:35 AM PST by snowman1
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To: Archon of the East
To socialist's all treaties and Constitution's are "flexible" so those corrected deficiencies will be re-interpreted at some point.

Which is the main wisdom to reject most treaties out of hand. No treaty, no "re-interpretation".

13 posted on 04/01/2005 8:24:59 AM PST by elbucko (A Feral Republican)
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14 posted on 04/01/2005 8:28:03 AM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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To: glock rocks

Write an anti LOST article an not even mention my favorite Communist, Richard G. Lugar, Foreign Relations Committee Chairman / United States Senator for Indiana?

A wasted opportunity, IMO.

Then he also skipped mentioning the one Senator who has been attempting to educate the rest of the world about the anti-sovereignty ingediants of the UN's LOST Treaty, Senator Inhofe.

Oliver North is a sad example as a writer on this subject. I wonder if he has researched the matter. Doesn't appear so.


15 posted on 04/01/2005 8:36:20 AM PST by B4Ranch (The Minutemen will be doing a 30 day Neighborhood Watch Program in Arizona and New Mexico.)
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To: Bald Eagle777

>>How long can our Sovereign nation stand?<<

Did we regain our sovereignty? When? Shouldn't this have been on the news? The Minutemen would all be going home if this were true.


16 posted on 04/01/2005 8:39:16 AM PST by B4Ranch (The Minutemen will be doing a 30 day Neighborhood Watch Program in Arizona and New Mexico.)
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To: gobucks

You are absolutely correct. What happened to the Monroe and Truman Doctrines? Instead of appeasing, which, in Churchill's words, is like "feeding an alligator and hoping it will eat you last", why do we not push our agenda. I mean, stay diplomatic, but keep in mind that socialist nations (i.e. China) do not have our best interests in mind. Therefore, we need choke off their military anywhere possible, and have a game plan, in case something goes south. Just look at Reagan, who peacefully finished USSR. He never made concessions, lowered our guard, or put our country at risk, so that, in the case of a war, it would be fair. He actually did quite the opposite. He began financing the SDI, upgrading our military. The only disarmament that occurred was done equally by both parties. I say we keep our technology for our allies (like Israel and Britain and many others). LOST is basically asserting that we are obligated to let our enemies have our technology. Like we have high-tech spy planes and virtually invisible nuclear subs that they cannot detect, so to make it fair, we have to let their diesel subs spy on us and pretend not to hear them. It is congruent to the recurring liberal idea that you take from the winners and give to the losers, so they do not feel "left out" or "insulted", because they are very "sensitive". We are one of the oldest countries in the world, our system has never failed us, these contemporary ideas of socialism are nothing but old news. So, by us pushing our governmental ideals we are not enacting imperialism, we are making man free. I say that if there is ever to be a single world establishment, let it be the United States of Earth, with the United States' constitution.


17 posted on 04/01/2005 8:39:17 AM PST by JPSC
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To: Bald Eagle777
Most if not all conservative organizations strongly oppose this treaty. I have through I believe it was the ACU blast faxed members of congress, I have written letters and continue to do so, albeit with little response. I am just wondering if it is not time to become a bit more organized and forceful in our appeals to maintain true US sovereignty? I sometimes feel that no matter what we do or say decisions have been made and that we are not truly represented by people with our interest at heart.
18 posted on 04/01/2005 8:40:09 AM PST by Archon of the East (The Constitution is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: Bald Eagle777

Looks like Santorum is going to vote in favor of this hideous treaty as are other so called Conservatives. For the first time I fear that we are at the point of no return with regard to true American sovereignty. I am feeling very betrayed.


19 posted on 04/03/2005 9:04:04 PM PDT by Archon of the East
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To: Archon of the East

Let us all encourage all of our representatives in the Senate and in the House to vote AGAINST any weakening of our God-Blessed National Sovereignty and against any and all efforts to weaken our National Constitution!

The U.S. Constitution is the Supreme Law of The Land (apart from attendant, corollary Biblical principles which went directly into its design...)

The U.N. and any and all other NGOs, have ZERO jurisdiction over the U.S. of A.

Let's hope and pray that as many as possible of our elected Representatives vote AGAINST any weakening of the Sovereignty of the U.S. of A, not just in one proposal, but in any and all proposals that are sent to the House and Senate for consideration.


20 posted on 04/03/2005 9:40:25 PM PDT by Bald Eagle777 (God Bless the USMC , SEALS and US SFG, et. al.)
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