Posted on 03/31/2005 2:27:31 PM PST by goldstategop
"Starvation" is not an accurate description of the process of ceasing to pump chemicals into an uncomprehending and insensate physical body. It is an emotional term meant to rouse those suspending critical thinking. But this is standard fare from that side.
The 'chemicals' that were being pumped into Terri are commonly called food and water.
When was the last time you 'pumped' such chemicals into your own body?
Good grief. I've seen people say a lot of things to soothe their consciences so they can continue to take an immoral stand, but this is the wildest effort at conscience soothing I've seen so far.
Pumping chemicals.
Good grief.
Why would my conscience need soothing for saying the obvious?
There are thousands of Terri's across the land which are having such support ended without controversy. Their loved ones understand that it is better for all to do so unlike the Schindlers.
If anyone need examine their consciences it is the people who have used this as a political opportunity. Not those who refuse to buy into their hype and lunacy.
I just have to wonder when the angry left is going to wake up and realize that their positions are not main stream. The Democrats are sinking deeper and deeper into a world of self delusion, driven by contempt of conservative moral values and hatred for George W. Bush.
What makes you think that it is the Schindlers who are spreading falsehoods and propaganda? There was actually very little evidence that Terry ever expressed a wish to die, rather than live in a decreased capacity, other than the word of an adulterous, possibly abusive husband. Most of the posters on this board (and apparently the public at large) think that the angry left has just scored a victory at the expense of the life of a brain damaged woman. I hope that you are never faced with a judicial fiat ordering the death of a family member because they are brain damaged (not brain dead). Most people feel that it is not the place of the government to decide when a person is no longer of any value.
I am sorry for the long reply, but there is something else I would like to add to this. About two years ago, my husband was diagnosed with a bone tumor in his femur. Probably cancerous, they said. My husband is extremely athletic and had remarked on numerous occassions that he would not want to live as a cripple, but when faced with the possibility, the truth is, he didn't mean it. What he did mean was that he didn't want to be a cripple, but then no one does. It doesn't mean that they want to die.
The lies have been rampant and the most ridiculous and false has been that this inevitable death is the result of some sort of Death Culture which controls America. In actual FACT even the deaths of the most damaged and least viable of us only comes after agonizing medical or court decisions.
Our nation spends vast sums upon those who would have routinely died only a few years ago. Preemies received care costing hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars. TS had thousands of hours of court hearings, hundreds of medical professionals working over her, and received millions of dollars in state funds for her care. Any charge of inhumanity or callousness is just a flat out lie. This was one of the most significant claims of the Schindler supporters.
Another outright lie is that this was an example of judicial tyranny and overreaching. Once again nothing could be further from the truth when what the Schindler supporters wanted was EXACTLY that overreaching routinely condemned in other cases by conservatives. There was NO misconduct on the judge's part, NO corruption of him and NO biased rulings.
His decisions were based upon the best medical evidence available and are unexceptional being clearly within the framework of the law. Yet this did nothing to prevent an torrent of accusations, lunatic conspiracy theories and more hatred than that directed at Saddam Hussein. A complete loss of perspective and decency.
These are only two of the most exgregious falsehoods routinely spread here. They make FR look like the home of screwballs if unchallenged.
I hope your husband fully recovers having lost my beloved wife to this horror I understand the feelings cancer can provoke. Best wishes to you.
Your facts are so convoluted that I am not going to bother to argue. The left is killing itself on this one. It's actually a rather amusing concept, euthanasia of a political party.
You didn't answer the question. When did you last pump chemicals into your body (i.e. ingest food and water)?
Thank you, my husband is fully recovered. It turned out to be a rare, non-cancerous bone tumor, a hematoma. The doctors had never seen one inside a bone before. He now has a metal bar in his leg, from his hip to his knee, but he is fine. Thank God.
I have never been hooked up and fed artifically so the question was purely rhetorical.
That is the standard admission of defeat.
No, it's just an admission that I figured out who I was arguing with. The circular logic is a dead give away.
These 'chemicals' you refer to were put into your body within the last couple of weeks or you'd be dead, just as Terri Schiavo is now dead.
She died of starvation, pure and simple. If you claim she did not, please provide proof of exactly what the base cause of her death was.
In order to evaluate "circular logic" one must understand logic.
The reflexes and autonomous processes which made up all that was left of Terri could have been maintained for years. But for what? Everything which makes a person a person i.e. their humaness was gone never to return.
Would YOU want to be maintained in such a state?
Yes. I would not ask anyone to commit murder.
In such a state you don't ASK anyone to do anything.
Would you want such a burden placed upon your family?
If it is too much for my family, they can always walk away. I'm more concerned about the burden put on their souls by asking them to commit murder.
No one committed "murder" here. You stating it doesn't make it so.
The judiciary can't be trusted to decide what is murder. After all, they think it is perfectly legal to shove scissors into the back of the skull of a partially born baby.
Ah, but there are those like you who seem to believe that anything the judiciary decides is perfectly okay.
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