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Is America Too Poor To Remain A Military Superpower ?
AmericanEconomicAlert.org ^ | Wednesday, March 30, 2005 | William R. Hawkins

Posted on 03/31/2005 12:01:29 PM PST by Willie Green

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To: KevinDavis; Willie Green; ninenot

3 - "Same crap I heard in the 80's and the answer is no."

Really - and did you see this in the 80's too?


Bell Labs has moved its labs to China and India for research, and to
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What is BLRC?

Founded on Mar. 23, 2000, Bell Labs Research China (BLRC) is the first
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Bell Labs Research, India, launched in October 2004, is located in
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Bell Labs Research in Ireland

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81 posted on 03/31/2005 7:40:16 PM PST by XBob
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To: Willie Green

Thanks for the ping.


82 posted on 03/31/2005 9:26:24 PM PST by GOPJ (Liberals haven't had a new idea in 40 years.)
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To: Pukin Dog

Welcome back, PD!


83 posted on 04/01/2005 4:10:17 AM PST by Grandma Pam
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To: Pukin Dog

PD
I'm confused by your original line that "wars will not be fought man to man no more but economy to economy". I agree wrecking some enemies economy will be part of the plan but no more fighting man to man??? Is that what you really meant?

If so then why are we building tanks airplanes etc??


84 posted on 04/01/2005 6:08:02 AM PST by superiorslots
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To: Toddsterpatriot

ping for later


85 posted on 04/01/2005 6:20:47 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Willie Green

Ping


86 posted on 04/01/2005 6:24:06 AM PST by mr_hammer
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To: superiorslots; Pukin Dog
Also china holds the majority of our treasuries.

You have a strange definition of majority. Let me guess, public school math?

That's sad.

87 posted on 04/01/2005 7:54:19 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Maybe it's not the Alinsky Method. Maybe you appear ridiculous because you are ridiculous!!!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

O.k. they are the second largest US bond holder. Is that better you pompeous a**?? I've noticed you have a way with belittling posters.

You and I will never agree on free traitors anyway.


88 posted on 04/01/2005 8:16:24 AM PST by superiorslots
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To: superiorslots
O.k. they are the second largest US bond holder.

Great, now what percentage do they own?

I've noticed you have a way with belittling posters.

Only posters that make stupid mistakes. Have I belittled you before?

89 posted on 04/01/2005 8:21:09 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Maybe it's not the Alinsky Method. Maybe you appear ridiculous because you are ridiculous!!!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Quiote: Only posters that make stupid mistakes. Have I belittled you before?



Oh you are so so funny and smug. A perfect example.


90 posted on 04/01/2005 8:26:07 AM PST by superiorslots
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To: superiorslots
Does this mean we can't be friends anymore?
91 posted on 04/01/2005 8:49:21 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Maybe it's not the Alinsky Method. Maybe you appear ridiculous because you are ridiculous!!!)
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To: superiorslots; Pukin Dog; 1rudeboy
Also china holds the majority of our treasuries. In a sense they US by the balls. Oversmplication of course but bascially true in a nutshell.

As a consequence, foreign ownership of the U.S. national debt has risen to $1.8 trillion or half of the privately held debt. A decade ago, foreigners owned just over 20 percent of the debt.

The Japanese are the largest foreign holders of U.S. Treasury securities, with a total $720 billion in September, up from $317 billion just four years earlier. The Chinese have become the second largest holders, with $174 billion worth, a sharp increase from $62 billion in Sept. 2000.

Bruce Bartlett

Let's see, if $1.8 trillion is half the privately owned debt, total privately owned debt must be $3.6 trillion. Going slowly enough for you to follow slots? If the Chinese own $174 billion, that would be less than 5%. Just a little less than your statement that they hold the majority.

They have us by the balls? If you say so. Oversimplification? Yes. Basically true? Not even close.

Hope I wasn't too funny and smug. Try not to be so wrong in the future. You know how I hate belittling posters.

92 posted on 04/01/2005 9:08:22 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Maybe it's not the Alinsky Method. Maybe you appear ridiculous because you are ridiculous!!!)
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To: Pukin Dog

We don't have a real opponent anymore.

True, but things change. Your analysis is based on the present status, the political regime presently in power (just barely). Let the left get back in power and we conservatives are not going to be so all-confident.

Imagine if the Vietnam anti-war appeaser and his party had gotten back in power. Clinton's dismantling of our military and nuclear capability would be minor compared to Skerry and the dims had they gotten in power.

In the days after WW1, Britain smug and confident, who could have foreseen the appeaser Chamberlain and the rise of Hitler in just a few years?


93 posted on 04/01/2005 9:22:21 AM PST by sasportas
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To: superiorslots; Pukin Dog
Also china holds the majority of our treasuries.

When you owe the bank $100, the bank owns you.

When you owe the bank $3,000,000,000,000, you own the bank.

The cash flow from those securities is the only thing allowing China to refinance its nonperforming loans. If we're not paying them, then the ChiComs go broke in a matter of months.

94 posted on 04/01/2005 9:26:26 AM PST by Poohbah (I'm in the WPPFF)
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To: Willie Green
Why is the govt. still stuck in the 90's inertia of military downsizing? Under a strong republican majority, should we be continuing the self-destruction begun by Clinon et al? IMO, a strong military is Job 1, top priority, don't worry about the spotted owl until its done, Big Deal. Quit carping about "can't afford it" and get it done. First. Then go on wasting the remaining tax revenues on superfluous crap like always.
95 posted on 04/01/2005 9:26:54 AM PST by TChris (Just once, we need an elected official to stand up to a clearly incorrect ruling by a court. - Ann C)
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To: TChris
Under a strong republican majority, should we be continuing the self-destruction begun by Clinon et al?

The Reagan build-up of our military was actually reversed by Papa Bush under the delusion that global marxism was dead. Yeah, Klintoon was certainly an abomination, but neocons aren't true conservatives either.

96 posted on 04/01/2005 9:37:04 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green
The Reagan build-up of our military was actually reversed by Papa Bush under the delusion that global marxism was dead. Yeah, Klintoon was certainly an abomination, but neocons aren't true conservatives either.

Good point. The utter lack of foresight and/or imagination on the part of our representatives is truly frightening. Here we are, just waking up to the threat posed by China, and still downsizing the military! Amazing.

97 posted on 04/01/2005 9:41:13 AM PST by TChris (Just once, we need an elected official to stand up to a clearly incorrect ruling by a court. - Ann C)
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To: Willie Green

FWIW - I agree we have cut too much, given our objectives. From the USAF side, our projected buy of Raptors is down to a laughable amount. Yes, it will be a great plane - but we're buying so few! The C-17 is another example. It was supposed to provide strat/tactical airlift - but we haven't bought very many & the C-141 has gone away, so plan on strat lift only for the C-17.

As for the 'quality vs quantity' arguement - I prefer both. And if our percentage of federal spending remained the same, we could afford both.

I do not believe the world is a much safer place than 20 years ago. The Chinese worry me. Russia is trending bad after I thought we had a chance to make it a solid ally. And the GWOT may become more critical as nukes proliferate.

Bottom line - I don't like cutting the Navy back so far. I don't like the limited buys the USAF has made. I worry about the numbers of boots on the ground that the Army can deliver. If these were cuts of necessity, I would accept them & hope we get lucky - but these are cuts made so politicians can fully fund the DoE, PBS and pay entitlement programs that always expand.


98 posted on 04/01/2005 10:20:18 AM PST by Mr Rogers
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To: sasportas
Things do change.

Chamberlain reasoned from a position of weakness. While you are correct that an extended dose of liberal leadership could weaken this nation, it would not be to the degree that would allow our opponents to gain advantage before they would again be replaced. Clinton is a great example. All he did was weaken our military to the point where it would be hard-pressed for us to kick two nation's asses at the same time, where it was then(and about to be again) a piece of cake.

It would take 20 years of liberal leadership in America for our potential opponents to gain parity with America. That is not going to happen.

Aegis, baby!

99 posted on 04/01/2005 10:37:44 AM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Poohbah
Well said, Pooh.
100 posted on 04/01/2005 10:39:01 AM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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