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Terri Schiavo has passed away
CNN ^ | 3/31 1005 | CNN

Posted on 03/31/2005 6:55:11 AM PST by Eurotwit

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To: general_re

To clarify the conflict of interest:

Michael said Terri wanted to die, and he hired a lawyer to get permission to kill her.

Terri's parents said Terri wanted to live, and they hired a lawyer in order to prevent Michael from killing her.

Who represented Terri? The GAL was appointed to make sure her rights were protected, and Florida law allowed, but did not require, the GAL to recommend that independent counsel be appointed for her. Please note that by "appointed" the law doesn't mean "paid for by the government." She had plenty of money for her own lawyer.


2,801 posted on 04/01/2005 1:14:14 PM PST by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defence of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: yellowdoghunter; pbrown; Howlin; Long Cut

Is your pro-death "list" (sooooooooo scary) include those that objected to federal intervention, armed kooks, and calls for voting 3rd party? If so, you are a freaking idiot. Being against the above did not mean that people were "pro-death".


2,802 posted on 04/01/2005 1:20:04 PM PST by Bella_Bru (You're about as funny as a case sensitive search engine.)
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To: Bella_Bru

Please do not post to me.


2,803 posted on 04/01/2005 1:22:39 PM PST by yellowdoghunter (The Terri issue is legally complicated, but not the moral issue. I want to be on the side of life.)
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To: Mudboy Slim

That is my fear also. I can't understand when there is a question of abuse, PLUS an existing bone scan showing past fractures, that there couldn't be and wouldn't be an independant autopsy done? The corruption in this county is unbelievable. It reaches EVERYWHERE.


2,804 posted on 04/01/2005 1:52:48 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South !)
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To: joanie-f

I agree with all of what you said. I am "ashamed" to be an American right now. No one except her family really stood up for Terri. The rest was all (you nailed it) "theatrics."


2,805 posted on 04/01/2005 2:02:04 PM PST by Minuteman23
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To: stranger and pilgrim
I'm well aware of the case. I also understand that the parents "give" their daughter to marriage. It matters not one whit whether a husband is a good husband or not. The husband and wife are one. Would you want your spouse's parents to exert rule over your marriage because you have sinned?

Embarrassing.

2,806 posted on 04/01/2005 2:14:52 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Bella_Bru

Please do not post to me.


2,807 posted on 04/01/2005 2:18:39 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown; Everybody

Rest in peace, dear sister.

Yesterday I decided to stop practicing law and investigate other fields. It's not just Terri, but this atrocity certainly helped me finally make the decision.


2,808 posted on 04/01/2005 2:28:14 PM PST by nimbysrule
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To: yellowdoghunter

You're welcome. I'm proud to do it. He got himself a couple of days suspension over there. He posted your remark(i believe) and they suspended him for it. I don't understand it.


2,809 posted on 04/01/2005 2:29:08 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown

I don't really know either. All that I can figure is that you are not supposed to post a post over again...I think I read that somewhere. However, I had no problem at all with him reposting what I said.


2,810 posted on 04/01/2005 2:32:04 PM PST by yellowdoghunter (The Terri issue is legally complicated, but not the moral issue. I want to be on the side of life.)
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To: nimbysrule
I hope you find something that you really love to do. My husband is a carpenter and loves going to work everyday. The secret to loving your job, is to find a job you love, then it ceases to be a job.

Good luck to you.

2,811 posted on 04/01/2005 2:33:04 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: yellowdoghunter

I guess that's it. He should be shed of time out by tomorrow I think.


2,812 posted on 04/01/2005 2:34:59 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown
pbrown - with regard to yellowdoghunter's "harrassment," anyone with an ounce of reading comprehension can go over there and see that his claim is BS. The minute anyone replied to his slur on the entire thread he started with his "don't post to me" BS.

As far as his claim that he wouldn't post anything like what he did post 'in public,' that is patently false. What he obviously meant to say was that he wouldn't actually post it to the people he was talking about. He has been posting the same stuff, in the main forum, for a week.

I would follow protocol and copy him with this, but he doesn't want me to post to him. Feel free to pass it along. But his false whiny charge of harrassment will not go unanswered.

2,813 posted on 04/01/2005 2:54:16 PM PST by lugsoul (Wild Turkey)
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To: pbrown

Thanks so much. I'll keep you posted. By the way, your posts about the judicial takeover are right on.


2,814 posted on 04/01/2005 2:55:12 PM PST by nimbysrule
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To: lugsoul

Please do not post to me.


2,815 posted on 04/01/2005 2:57:40 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: nimbysrule
You're very welcome. I will be waiting to hear from you.

It's at the judicial level we as a country are going to be in big trouble.

2,816 posted on 04/01/2005 3:00:38 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown

Jawhol, mein capitan.


2,817 posted on 04/01/2005 3:02:40 PM PST by lugsoul (Wild Turkey)
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To: AndrewC

But you find the notion that "entitled to counsel" being exactly identical to "must always have counsel" sensible? Interesting.


2,818 posted on 04/01/2005 3:22:09 PM PST by general_re ("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
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To: CobaltBlue

That's not what I was looking for. The presumption, I believe, is that one's legal guardian is acting in one's best interests. Under what circumstances is that presumption overturned, and outside representation required - aside from the obvious conflict of interest, that is.


2,819 posted on 04/01/2005 3:25:53 PM PST by general_re ("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
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To: general_re
But you find the notion that "entitled to counsel" being exactly identical to "must always have counsel" sensible? Interesting.

No I don't say they are identical(the law states no such thing), but I do construe "right to counsel" as something more than using someone else's counsel especially when there are potentially colliding interests.

2,820 posted on 04/01/2005 3:56:54 PM PST by AndrewC (All these moments are tossed in lime, like trains in the rear.)
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