Posted on 03/30/2005 6:44:50 PM PST by watchdog_writer
I've only posted once, maybe twice, to all of the hundreds of Terri Schiavo threads because I didn't want to get into an argument with the people who think Jeb Bush is to blame in this fiasco. They won't change my mind and it's very evident that I won't change theirs. The thing that bothers me the most are the downright nasty replies made by some freepers against those that don't agree with them. The same ones that make the argument that you can't talk to a democrat or liberal because they always resort to "name calling." They're doing the same thing.
I have my own feelings about the Terri Schiavo case, and will do all that I can to see that changes are made so that something like this doesn't happen again. But I in no way blame Jeb or George Bush in this. If you want to blame someone blame Michael Schiavo....because until an autopsy is performed and the results are made known, he looks to be the one that is responsible for Terri's condition in the first place.
If you didn't like what Greer did, then vote him out of office. Wining about how bad a judge Greer is or how ghoulish Felo's is may make us feel better, but who will the next victim be? We need to get off our posteriors and get more involved with writing letters to the editor, carrying signs of protest, working on the campaigns of pro-life candidates. My point here was not to prise Felos or Greer, they were the instrumentalities by which the life of an innocent person was taken. Greer may have abused his decretion, and if he did and the appellate courts did not overturn his decision, then we have more work than we knew. The liberals are playing a gottca game with pro-lifres. The sooner angry conservatives mobilize to defeat liberal candidates the sooner we will get true justice.
AMEN, you got my point!
I know this has been an emotional issue, but I am dumbfounded at the number of people who have turned their frustration and anger toward the very people who have ben trying to do what they can about it.
Excellent Post Bump
Great post, thanks! Some of the posters to the Terri threads here are obvious "plants", intending on doing nothing but stirring up trouble and making conservatives, right to life supporters and FR look bad.
Please quote the passage of the Constitution that you believe gives Greer the authority to starve to death an innocent woman who is handicapped and can't speak for herself????
It's a description term, not the invective that I've seen by certain posters.
Do you object to my observation? Disagree? Feel theatened?
If you are suggesting that Jeb Bush is not a good leader because he is not calling out the national guard to capture and secure the building were Terri is dying, I disagree. And if that is what you are suggesting, the liberals will love you more than we love Zell Miller. If the pro-lifers like you were out there pounding the pavement working against the election and soon the reelection of Judge Greer, we would not be having this conversation. Pro-lifers who are being sucked into this liberal-driven agenda to bash Bush are ignorant of their surroundings.
The Declaration of Independence -- July 4th is still considered a National holiday:
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.Nature's God.We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
... And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.
[Our] Creator.
Divine Providence.
All one and the same. One God.
Obey and Listen, we must, to His Majestic Orders.
To ensure Justice.
And to make Kindness and Mercy like a great light in every dark place.
And I stand by my observation that there are people who wait in the wings of FR for difficult issues and topics to arise in order to stir up trouble and make us all look bad. They eventually slink back into their holes. I've seen it too many times.
Until then we will simply have to disagree.
Agreed.
Well .. if you had bothered to check my page - I don't live in FL - but that doesn't mean that I cannot see a flawed judge. Greer didn't just abuse "his discretion" - he ignored legitimate testimony against Michael because it suited him - that's irresponsible.
Yes, we need to get more involved - and we need to be explaining to our congress persons that THEY HAVE AUTHORITY OVER THE COURTS (because those judges are appointed not elected) .. and I've seen congress people who DO NOT KNOW THAT - or if they do - they are saying that congress should not have gotten involved.
Pay attention. You said Jeb Bush was "damned if he does, damned if he doesn't." That is true of all leaders. The4y have to make tough decisions. No one should volunteer to be a leader and expect not to have to make tough decisions. All great leaders did.
Very good.
Perhaps insurance companies will force a wrongful death suit.
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