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GM will distribute hydrogen cars in California, other places
Bakersfield Californian ^ | 3/30/05 | Ken Thomas - AP

Posted on 03/30/2005 5:19:49 PM PST by NormsRevenge

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1 posted on 03/30/2005 5:19:49 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

not those....but THESE:

http://www.unitednuclear.com/h2.htm

now thats much better....


2 posted on 03/30/2005 5:29:41 PM PST by Vaquero ("There is nothing lower than the human race - except the french." (Mark Twain))
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To: NormsRevenge

Are they going to distribute hydrogen also?


3 posted on 03/30/2005 5:30:41 PM PST by DManA
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To: NormsRevenge

This, teamed up with Toshiba's revolutional new Nano-Battery will make electric-hydrogen hybrids that will replace gasoline powered vehicles.


4 posted on 03/30/2005 5:31:55 PM PST by Uncle George
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"Are they going to distribute hydrogen also?"


That's the part that liberals don't seem to get.


5 posted on 03/30/2005 5:36:05 PM PST by cripplecreek (I'm apathetic but really don't care.)
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To: Vaquero

One of these with wheels

6 posted on 03/30/2005 5:39:29 PM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: Uncle George

In how many years and I might add, what's next? I really don't think battery powered cars are the future.


7 posted on 03/30/2005 5:40:48 PM PST by bigfootbob
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To: NormsRevenge

Where are they going to get the hydrogen in California?

It's probably going to be made from steam-naphtha reforming, which means that the car will require oil anyway. Maybe the H2 will be made from steam-methane reforming, which means that the car's fuel would be made from natural gas. In either case, the car still needs hydrocarbons. The only thing different is that the fuel and the car will be more expensive.


8 posted on 03/30/2005 5:54:33 PM PST by RBroadfoot
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Before they can distribute the hydrogen, they have to make it. It seems that the hydrogen promoters always leave that part out.


9 posted on 03/30/2005 5:56:33 PM PST by RBroadfoot
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To: NormsRevenge

Hydrogen cars? What holds them together? It seems as if they'd just dissipate as soon as they're manufactured...


10 posted on 03/30/2005 6:01:10 PM PST by Riley
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GM plans to build a fleet of 40 hydrogen fuel vehicles ...

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHA! And all on the government dole too!

That's some fleet of cars - my company buys that many every year.

11 posted on 03/30/2005 6:21:10 PM PST by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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Didn't GM just bail on their electric EV1 experiment?

I'm glad their trying new stuff, it might be viable when I'm dead.

12 posted on 03/30/2005 6:21:47 PM PST by benjaminjjones
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We're awash in oil in the USA: off the California and Florida coasts, Alaska, Gulf of Mexico, etc. All we need is the political will to go get it.


13 posted on 03/30/2005 6:22:42 PM PST by Salvey
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To: NormsRevenge

I'm trying to remember when I last saw a hydrogen filling station.


14 posted on 03/30/2005 6:25:05 PM PST by Marauder (But your honor, the bed was already on fire when I crawled into it!)
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200 millions cars in the US----- how much pollution to produce the Hydrogen? The landfill from all those Batteries will be very tasty. Next...


15 posted on 03/30/2005 6:25:40 PM PST by Afronaut (Press two for English.)
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"I'm glad their trying new stuff, it might be viable when I'm dead." Hope you have lived a long and healthy life because America is once again being forced into making innovation reality.


16 posted on 03/30/2005 6:26:08 PM PST by TBall
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But where will you get fuel? All of the really potent gasbags are in Sacramento. They don't expect me to string a line all the way up there to Sheila Kuehl's blow hole, do they?!
17 posted on 03/30/2005 6:28:32 PM PST by Redcloak (But what do I know? I'm just a right-wing nut in his PJs whackin' on a keyboard..)
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GM strategy - Lose as much market share as quickly as possible.

When GM thinks up something "good", run like hell. They eliminate vehicles that work and which people want (EV1\2), eliminate popular body styles (Caprice) and types (F-Body, evil bastards) and step in to meddle in any unit showing success (Saturn).

If former GM management are hired at a company you own shares of, sell. If they cook dinner for you, order take out...

18 posted on 03/30/2005 6:33:55 PM PST by Axenolith (The 23rd Century will be here sooner than you think...)
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To: NormsRevenge

"aiming for possible mass marketing of the vehicles within 15 years"

WOW!! Now thats what I call a definite committment and a timely response to help reduce our dependency on oil imports.

And a fleet of 40 Hydrogen powered vehicles is about insignificant.

Government started "talking" about reducing oil imports in the early 70's. We were only importing 40% of our oil then. Now imports are over 60%. I guess they have had time to "think" about energy for 30 plus years.
Now with the idea phase completed, it is time for our government officials to start thinking about implementing some ideas over the next 15 years.

WHAT A FARCE! They are patting themselves on the back for doing absolutely NOTHING for 30 years but thinking.


19 posted on 03/30/2005 7:06:57 PM PST by o_zarkman44
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Oops, their=they're

America is once again being forced into making innovation reality.

Waddya mean? We are always innovating! We might not have the Cold War or Space Race to motivate us anymore, but I still think the U.S. is the technological world leader and will continue to be, as long as we are free (thanks to the sacrifices of our Armed Forces). I'm all for innovation!

I was sorta making a little left-hand compliment. As I see it, the EV1 was only a failure because of lack of market demand (gas isn't expensive enough yet), but I'm glad some one at GM is looking into alternatives to fossil fuels.

My only problem with Hydrogen powered vehicles is where do you get the Hydrogen? Extract it from the atmosphere? What's the energy cost of that, and where does the energy come from? Extract it from water and dittos.

Heck, I'd love to live up on a mountain top with an off-the-grid solar powered house.

20 posted on 03/30/2005 7:23:15 PM PST by benjaminjjones
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