Posted on 03/30/2005 1:24:18 PM PST by thorshammer
Did he mean ILLEGAL immigrant smugglers or are the smugglers themselves legal immigrants?
Yes, he did. He probably also said exactly that - illegals. He is not getting a fair shake from the press, but then, who expected that? Larry and I are friends after a fashion and the articles quoting him over the last few days are not accurate.
This statement facinates me - it is worthy of some extensive consideration.
Consider a very highly probable situation. The Undocumented Border Control Agents (UBCAs) are merely observing some young drug smugglers coming across the border with their drugs. Since the UCBAs don't know they have drugs, they have to treat them as committing a non-felony, so they let them alone, but call the Border Control Agents (BCAs), and keep them informed of their location.
Before the BCAs get there, the smugglers observe that they are being observed, and open fire on the UCBAs. Hopefully the UCBAs will have this recorded (VCR, DVD). Discharging a weapon at a citizen is a felony. If the perps then flee, they are now suspected "fleeing felons".
The nearest 100 UBCAs now have the perfect legal right to defend themselves, to return fire, to perform a citizen's arrest, and even to kill them if they do not disarm and surrender. If one of the UBCAs is injured, in spite of the pleas of the leadership, that is exactly what a bunch of them will do. There will then be a race between the fleeing perps, the UBCAs trying to catch and/or kill them, law enforcement, and the BCAs trying to get there before the perps are killed.
The MSM would then have a field day - headlines like "Blood on the Border", no where reporting the perps started this by firing on the UBCAs. Interviews with all concerned flooding the airways. The UDBAs will be castigated at having "created the conditions for violence".
Fox interviews the UBCAs, replays the video of the perps firing on them; maybe the video of the perps firing on them when surrounded.
Liberals will whack out, and try to craft legislation to disarm citizens near the border. Republicans will finally have to address the immigration problem, because there is nothing that would prevent the same thing happening again.
Unless an UBCA gets seriously injured ... it will be really fun to watch.
It will not get ugly.
The illegals will just wait or go to a different locale.
That's not what they are saying here, they are saying they are coming to take action against the locals. READ THE ARTICLE !
This Armando Navarro????
The one who penned:
La Raza Unida Party
A Chicano Challenge to the U.S. Two-Party Dictatorship
Armando Navarro
??????
If you read the goals of La Raza it looks like the pot is calling the kettle black.... just who really are the "domestic terrorists"???
(takes one to know one).
Yeah, that's the one.
He threatened to come down here and take action against us a year ago...and was missing-in-action.
Sounds like all blow and no show.
Current reports from the border are that nobody is moving.
Normal traffic runs at the rate of two to three thousand crossers a night along a thirteen mile front.
Something is up...
I assume you mean no crossers last night. Where did you get that information?
I talked with a co-worker who spends upwards of thirty hours per week observing the crossing points and notifying the authorities.
The activities of the MUPs (Members of the Undocumented Project) have actually been going on for at least a year now and the trails used by the coyotes are well mapped out.
Thank you for taking the time to bring that to my attention.
It is hard to know the facts now days unless it comes first hand so to speak. I stand corrected :)
No problem! I can't get out and put boots on the ground with the rest of the guys and gals, but I can get information out.
Bush, both of them, have become all talk, no walk. That is why people are going to be taking control of things, independent of the government. Hey maybe that is a good thing?
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