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Standard RINO line from a limousine liberal whose newspaper genuflects to the pro-choice pro-population control "oracle of Omaha" Warren Buffet
1 posted on 03/30/2005 8:45:03 AM PST by stan_sipple
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To: stan_sipple
Religious nut jobs do not seem to understand that once you save the unborn and help prolong the lives of the almost dead, there is the business of taking care of the living. You can jawbone all you want about charity and faith based giving, but these social networks were not enough during the thirties and they are not working now.

NO! If you are that concerned for the living, you must dig into your pockets, well past the point that leaves you comfortable and either donate much more, or pay the taxes that fund the head starts, the childhood nutrition programs, assistance for unwed mothers, reduce class size and all sorts of other horrible and hideous socialistic type activities.

Still interested in the living?

Didn't think so. Go pray over it!

Remove Bush's feeding tube.


BUMP

51 posted on 03/30/2005 9:24:28 AM PST by tm22721
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Wouldn't the more compassionate course be to release Terri from a vegetative existence in the belief you are sending her on to a better life after death?



Wouldn't the more compassionate course be to release EVERY RINO from a vegetative existence?


55 posted on 03/30/2005 9:26:24 AM PST by TomasUSMC
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Excuse me but why would anyone listen to someone associated with the party of DEATH?
You can always tell who they are by the big "L" on their forehead. Amen.


59 posted on 03/30/2005 9:28:04 AM PST by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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legislative intrusion into the judicial system

YOWZA!

60 posted on 03/30/2005 9:28:06 AM PST by ModernDayCato (The Bush Brothers -- standing for LIFE)
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Try again.

This isn't a religious issue to me. It's a life issue.

65 posted on 03/30/2005 9:32:38 AM PST by Dan from Michigan ("Mama, take this judgeship off of Greer, he can't use it, anymore")
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The left is really panicked by the emergence fo the majority conservative force.


66 posted on 03/30/2005 9:33:19 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: stan_sipple; geedee; Blurblogger; Jay777; Salvation; NYer; Just mythoughts; Libloather; ...
Democracy is all about proving its exponents are on God's side......not that democracy is on God's side.

Unfortunately for RINOS and their acolytes, they still do not understand that the political climate has changed dramatically. Tearing down Christian tenets as a way to get elected now means undermining democracy (which is permanently and irrevocably built upon the foundations of Christianity).

The Founders presupposed then that the government would not have to tell people what do to b/c their religious faith properly informed them as to right and wrong.

Our sacrosanct rule of law is based on the Ten Commandments and other universal Christian truths. The Founders could not have envisioned the ugliness of individuals like RINO's and the Christian-hating ACLU, obsessively compelled to tear down America's religious foundation.

"Christianity is part of the Common, or Natural Law. Therefore it is Christianity that is the basis of our government. Religion of any other type is not synonymous with the American experience of Liberty!" Justice James Wilson signer of the Declaration, the Constitution, Original Justice on the U. S. Supreme Court, and the father of the first organized legal training in America.

"It is the duty as well as the privilege and interest for our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians to be their representatives, as this is a Christian republic." Justice John Jay Supreme Court Justice

"It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was not founded by religionists, but by Christians, not on religions, but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum prosperity, and freedom of worship here." Patrick Henry

94 posted on 03/30/2005 9:59:34 AM PST by Liz ("There is no safety for honest men except by believing all possible evil of evil men." Edmund Burke)
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Hell Im not going to leave. If anything I work to toss the zealots like Randall Terry and Larry Klayman out. They were Democrats or sit at homes and wait for the 2nd coming folk until Reagan grabbed them up in the 80's.


95 posted on 03/30/2005 10:01:29 AM PST by Dave S
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I've a question for you.
Can you envision a time in the not-too-distant future where the Christian Right takes leave for more amicable and hospitable political environs?
One expects the ignoble Left to malign & defame them, but that's now carried over to elements within the G.O.P. itself.

I think the G.O.P. should develop a presentation showing the Party as it was pre-Reagan and post-Reagan. Then those not familiar with events that propelled the G.O.P. to majority status might actually begin to think before casting aspersions speaking.

102 posted on 03/30/2005 10:07:39 AM PST by jla
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Sure. I am sure the old line, anti-religious RINOs would love to go back to the days of permanent minority status in both houses of Congress.
112 posted on 03/30/2005 10:24:45 AM PST by Skooz (Host organism for the State parasite)
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As a native Omahan, I always make it a point to read Mr. Anderson's column. In general, while time has certainly dulled his faculties, it should cheer one to see that by reading his editorials, it is obvious for all to see that his excretory functions are still in perfect working condition.
113 posted on 03/30/2005 10:28:16 AM PST by Uncle Vlad
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Good grief.

You got Rinos like this who say "leave the party. . .its been taken over by right-wing Christian fundamentalists."

Then you got some right-wing Christian fundamentalists saying "leave the party. . .Bush isn't doing enough about X."

I think I'll stay, thank you.

114 posted on 03/30/2005 10:29:52 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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Unfortunately they are right. This three-ringed circus in Florida is a disaster for the GOP and conservatives.


116 posted on 03/30/2005 10:30:34 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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Thirty five years ago, the Omaha paper was as solidly conservative as any in the country. It appears that like the Chicago Tribune, the Los Angeles Times. the Dallas Morning News, etc., it has degenerated into just another liberal rag. Just change the local crime, sports, and weather stories, and these birdcage liners are interchangeable.
123 posted on 03/30/2005 10:38:20 AM PST by Wallace T.
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Well Mr. Anderson.... Now that you have written this article and successfully removed all doubt that you are an blithering idiot--perhap you should go get a job you are better suited for outside of journalism. Maybe a professorship at the University of Colorado.


126 posted on 03/30/2005 10:40:38 AM PST by Busywhiskers (When in doubt--punch.)
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Don't you love it when the libs tell the conservatives what they should do?


136 posted on 03/30/2005 10:52:29 AM PST by Fido969
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The "opinion" polls are based completely on views that people have made from inaccurate, incomplete and false information.

The legislative actions that conservatives have taken would not, and were not trying to, determine Terri's ultimate fate. They sought judicial review of long held, prior court findings on the proposition that an unbiased look at new and long ignored evidence could change those findings. They sought injunctive relief, from removal of the feeding tube, until full reconsideration of the findings could be done.

Far from interfeering, they sought the same type of chance that death row inmates are given by the courts as a matter of course. It is the court in Florida, and the appeals courts that refused to over-rule judge Greer, that have placed the government, through the courts, as an active advocate for one family member, instead of ruling as an unbiased arbitor between different family members.

All Terri's family has ever asked for is a re-examination of judge Greer's original "findings" and maintenance of the status quo until those findings were re-examined. The public has the impression that successive courts have looked at the whole record, completely, and came to the same conclusions that judge Greer did. That is not true. They, the appeals courts have simply ruled to not over-turn judge Greer and not demand that he re-examine his "findings". In that process they have only looked at the original hearings and the evidence and testimony that judge Greer had in those hearings. They, the appeals courts, have not, not once, looked at things judge Greer either refused to look at or that were not presented to judge Greer at the time. Instead of the courts conducting any judicial inquiry in the case, they have simply refused to inquire beyond judge Greer's original opinion.

What the public is missing is that judge Greer and the appeals courts have actively interveened in this case. They have not adjudicated it. They, through judge Greer and the appeals courts' refusals to reconsider Greer's opinion, have become active advocates for Michael Schiavo - political advocates, not "judges".

Is there 'evidence' to question all of judge Greer's findings? Yes. To over-turn Greer's findings? Maybe, maybe not. The point is not whether or not they would change the findings. The point is that they are legitimate questions that should be asked in determining what should be the correct "findings" in the case.

If Terri had said what Michael Schiavo now says she told him, then why was it a brand new annoucement from him, which it was, six years after her ordeal began and only after a court settlement gave him the money to hire lawyers to fight for that newly announced statement of Terri's "wishes". Prior to that, Mr. Schiavo never made the claims he now makes about Terri's wishes.

If Terri's mental state is as judge Greer accepted it as, then why were two of the court appointed "doctors" known advocates for euthanasia and not doctors with no known strong opinions, one way or the other. Judicial Misconduct.

If Terri's state was "irreversible", then active physical therapy would have shown that to be true and there was no basis for the court allowing Michael Schiavo to prohibit it. Permitting it would have proven Mr. Schiavo's position, not hurt it. Judicial misconduct.

If the examiners had incontrovertible evidence of Terri's state, the state that judge Greer accepted, then MRIs and Pet Scans would have been of no harm to anyone except Terri's parents, who want the "evidence" of such tests. For a judge to have this kind of case, with opposing family memebers, and not insist on such tests, which were in his power to do, he became an active advocate, taking sides and not a judge. He should be impeached for judicial misconduct. The outcome of the tests is not the point. The fact that he refused to have the tests done, leaving his "evidence" open to legitimate question, and then refusing to concede the lack of harm and "evidenciary" need for those tests, constitutes misconduct. He took a side in a case before him and from that point on he proceeded to impede the possibility of arriving at any finding other than the one he chose. Judicial Misconduct.

If you know of a Florida state rep, send this to him.


137 posted on 03/30/2005 10:53:39 AM PST by Wuli
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It's amusing to witness spiritual/religious dimwits like this fellow, and Garrison Keillor, lecturing Christians on our own belief systems. It would be something like Jerry Falwell giving lectures on all things Wiccan.


139 posted on 03/30/2005 10:54:38 AM PST by farmer18th ("The fool says in his heart there is no God.")
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Vegetative state......gotta think about that for a second. Okay! Second is up.

Let's take for instance, the carrots I have known. Do I recall ever seeing a carrot, open it's eyes and beam lovingly and trustingly at a familiar face? Nope, can't say that I have. Have I ever witnessed a carrot, turning it's head, smiling and following the movement of an object with it's big brown eyes? Nope.

Terri Schiavo feels and shows emotions, she is not now nor has ever been in a vegetative state-those unfeeling, unthinking, uncaring SOBs who are determined to kill her, are the makings for a garden salad. But fried lard would probably be more healthful than that particular salad.


146 posted on 03/30/2005 11:06:59 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Hillary Rodhamclinton is phonier than a three dollar bill clinton.)
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>i>the (relatively silent) majority of Americans feel(s) that the most compassionate treatment for Terri Schiavo ... is to let her vegetative existence end ...

The general consensus around here, in the conservative South, is that "if I ever wind up like Terri, shoot me in the head. If my parents act like Terri's, shoot them in the head."

148 posted on 03/30/2005 11:09:22 AM PST by JoeGar
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