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***GOTTA READ THIS! GOV. JEB BUSH'S PRE-INAUGURAL LETTER TO THE DISABLED IN FLORIDA (1998)***
Gov. Jeb Bush Gubernatorial Website, 1998 Archives ^ | Decemeber 1, 1998 | AmericanInTokyo (via archived Jeb Bush website)

Posted on 03/29/2005 2:11:48 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo

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To: flaglady47

"Terri is not disabled. You may continually try to make it so but it isn't. Terri cannot function on any level other than to breathe. She has no cerebral cortex. For all ostensible purposes she is totally functionless other than to lie there day after day, year after year. If anyone thinks that is merciful, they ought to have their own cerebral cortex examined."

So what? Should she be murdered? Should she not have the right to live her life up until natural death like hopefully the rest of us? Should she not have the love and compassion of her family surrounding her? Should she be treated like the murders on death rows where it could take 20 years or more to finally execute them for their taking of other lives? Please think about this instead of taking an idealic(sp) approach.

Terri is a breathing, living human being like you and me. She is deserving of a life with her loving family.


201 posted on 03/30/2005 6:25:17 PM PST by freekitty
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To: AmericanInTokyo
What happened?

He decided (in my opinion wrongly) that he cannot act within the rule of law and get Terri's tube back in.

In 2000, Texas executed Gary Graham, a horrific, evil bag of crap. Dubya couldn't have commuted his execution (Texas law allows coomutation only if a citizen board recommends it) but he still came in for massive condemnation in the press by anti-death penalty advocates, civil rights groups, and opportunistic Dems. Jesse Jackson even compared Dubya to Pontius Pilate.

Now, if somebody had played back some speech Dubya made about better race relations (Graham was Black) and said he was a hypocrite, would you have agreed?

If people want to say Jeb is lying when he says his hands are tied, that's fine, though I expect more proof than we're getting. But believing one's hands are tied does not make one a hypocrite.

202 posted on 03/30/2005 6:53:14 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (If this case were a TV movie, Columbo would be showing up everywhere Michael Schiavo goes.)
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To: freekitty

"Terri is a breathing, living human being like you and me."

Well, not quite. Have you got a working cerebral cortex? I do. As you responded to my comments, I am assuming you have one too. Terri doesn't.


203 posted on 03/30/2005 11:50:05 PM PST by flaglady47 (O)
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To: savedbygrace
If Jeb had taken her, and she died, LAWSUIT time.

If Jeb had taken her, and she lived, LAWSUIT time.

ANYONE here who thinks he should break the law and take her HAS THAT SAME OPTION

ANYONE here who thinks he has a moral right to take her HAS THAT SAME OPTION.

This Bush bashing has GOT TO STOP!!

Some are in the game, some are in the stands yelling and complaining. I think Monday Morning Quarterbacking is fine if at some point you were on the field. thank you.

204 posted on 03/31/2005 12:21:04 AM PST by Lower55
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To: Lower55
Oh, no, not LAWSUIT TIME! That would be just so much worse than saving her life. Sheesh, what a silly comparison you're making.

It's also plain silly to say that a private citizen has the same power and authority as the governor of a State.

You also seem to be saying that critisizing the government is out of bounds. What country do you think this is, anyway? Saddam's Iraq?

205 posted on 03/31/2005 4:08:13 AM PST by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has ever led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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To: flaglady47

That's not true according to some, do you only read and believe what you want? There are reports that say her cerebral cortex was thinning, however, that's not gone, and who are we to murder someone because they cannot talk or walk, they BREATHE, that alone makes them worth saving! Shame on the US today!


206 posted on 03/31/2005 7:50:22 AM PST by pistolpackinannie
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To: flaglady47

I don't think you'll see a complete and thorough autopsy, isn't going to happen! You may see a partial autopsy but Michael Schaivo won't want you to see a complete autopsy, he wanted her dead too badly!!! Greer wanted her dead too badly too, who do you think the Courts would decide with on this one??????


207 posted on 03/31/2005 8:00:29 AM PST by pistolpackinannie
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To: flaglady47; ladyjane

CT scans are useful for trauma cases. Terri didn’t have a brain trauma, but oxygen deprivation. The neurologists cited by Johannsen specifically mentioned that in oxygen deprivation cases, one needs to perform an MRI and/or PET to get an understanding of the damage to the brain. A CT, in my understanding doesn’t get it done.

With the slight chance that her cerebral cortex is somewhat present, would it not make sense to do the one test that would establish a more exact conclusion? Since your case that Terri a "living being" should be "killed" on your belief she’s dead from a lack of a cortex (?), why not go the extra mile and check?

The courts worked on the poorly gathered conclusive medical information to which they were given. The courts are not doctors and hope that the medical evidence given them is exact..medicine is not an exact science, however. Cases abound of those patients doctors considered were "dead already" and lived to prove their wrong diagnosis.


208 posted on 03/31/2005 8:25:10 AM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: Darkwolf377

You can talk till you are blue in the face but some out there just wont' understand that you CANNOT BREAK THE LAW. Jeb did all he could. Rest in peace Terri. I wish for today we could just do nice thoughts and words.


209 posted on 03/31/2005 8:27:00 AM PST by cubreporter
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To: flaglady47
The new evidence was not allowed in and there lies the fault of the court and the judge "morally".

Legally he (they) stand on solid ground(or the other 22 judges).

Morally their premises to the gathered conclusion might have had an agenda?

The law was immoral in this case. The attorneys for the parents did not do their job. A constitutional lawyer should have been called in from the onset. With them I cast much of the blame; but Michael's actions need to be placed under a microscope, til we rest in comfortably knowing the truth on which ever side of thinking it should fall. Just my opinion F_T_D
210 posted on 03/31/2005 8:37:25 AM PST by fight_truth_decay
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Should Terri had been a terrorist, she would not have had the feeding tube removed...under the Geneva Convention-Re:water and nutrition. ;)


211 posted on 03/31/2005 8:46:25 AM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: fight_truth_decay

"til we rest in comfortably knowing the truth on which ever side of thinking it should fall. Just my opinion F_T_D"

The truth will out with the results of the autopsy. RIP Terri.


212 posted on 03/31/2005 12:23:06 PM PST by flaglady47 (O)
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To: fight_truth_decay

"Cases abound of those patients doctors considered were "dead already" and lived to prove their wrong diagnosis."

The autopsy should answer your concerns shortly. RIP Terri.


213 posted on 03/31/2005 12:25:28 PM PST by flaglady47 (O)
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To: pistolpackinannie

"You may see a partial autopsy but Michael Schaivo won't want you to see a complete autopsy, he wanted her dead too badly!!!"

Michael Schiavo has no say in an autopsy, nor about any findings from it. The Medical Examiner is a Jeb Bush appointee. We await the results. RIP Terri.


214 posted on 03/31/2005 12:27:20 PM PST by flaglady47 (O)
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To: flaglady47

You, dear lady, are quite naive!


215 posted on 03/31/2005 3:27:58 PM PST by pistolpackinannie
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To: flaglady47

So what. She is still a living and breathing human being like you and me.


216 posted on 03/31/2005 5:03:31 PM PST by freekitty
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To: freekitty

So what. She is still a living and breathing human being like you and me.

I don't think your description above fits anymore. RIP Terri.


217 posted on 03/31/2005 8:19:41 PM PST by flaglady47 (O)
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To: flaglady47

That's pretty cruel and thoughtless of you.


218 posted on 03/31/2005 8:46:02 PM PST by freekitty
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To: freekitty

That's pretty cruel and thoughtless of you.

I'm off these sicko Schiavo threads. Leaving you all to your own devices. Now only responding to those who have commented to me. You are the last comment I've gotten. Please do not respond to this so that I can get the heck out of here. You don't respond, I'm gone. You can complain to your like-minded compatriots on this thread. Leave me out of it now. Don't want to be in the company of so many irrational and delusional posters as on these Schiavo threads. Have a good time grumbling amongst yourselves. Au revoir.


219 posted on 03/31/2005 9:04:24 PM PST by flaglady47 (O)
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To: flaglady47

All I am trying to do is explain to you it's not right to murder an innocent person, no matter what physical situation she is in.

And there is no need to get nasty and accuse everyone on this thread.


220 posted on 03/31/2005 9:17:17 PM PST by freekitty
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