H. R. 997 - the `English Language Unity Act of 2005'

The ORATOR - Bill HR 997 ^ | FR Post 3-29-05 | Mr. KING of Iowa

[vannrox]

I was unable to locate the broken link to HERE. But this is the substantive portion of the bill. I am posting it because it is very interesting. What have we come to, as a nation, whereas we have to have bills like this?

[peyton randolph]

Should pass. Won't pass. Lack of congressional spines and a president whose sombrero is cutting off circulation.

[doc30]

Uniform Language Testing Standard- All citizens should be able to read and understand generally the English language text of the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the laws of the United States made in pursuance of the Constitution.

SO everyone must be able to read and understand the written laws of the United States. Does that mean official, American English will be Legalese?

[Kidan]

ping

[peyton randolph]

 

[Dane]

Hi Peyton, I'm all for this bill and I'm a Bush supporter.

BTW, it isn't Bush that is in the way of establishing English as the national language, it's the courts. It was SCOTUS that mandated ballots in different languages, but you knew that but decided to go the knee jerk bash Bush route.

[OXENinFLA]

PING...

[Dane]

Oh BTW, when are you going to have the picture of Reagan in a sombrero?

Allow free movement of people from Mexico & Canada Reagan himself was a dreamer, capable of imagining a world without trade barriers. In announcing his presidential candidacy in Nov. 1979, he had proposed a “North American accord” in which commerce & people would move freely across the borders of Canada & Mexico. This idea, largely overlooked or dismissed as a campaign gimmick in the US, rankled nationalist sensibilities in the neighboring nations. But Reagan was serious in his proposal. Though he traveled only once outside the North American continent during his first 57 years, he was neither insular nor isolationist. California has windows to the world in Asia, and Reagan thought of the US as a Pacific power as well as an Atlantic one. He also had a Californian’s consciousness of Mexico and an actor’s appreciation of Canadians, who are well-represented in the film community. The dream of a North American accord would drive the successful pursuit of a US-Canadian free trade agreement and a future-oriented “framework” trade agreement with Mexico Source: The Role of a Lifetime, by Lou Cannon, p. 461 Jul 2, 1991

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"Mr. Gorbachev tear down this wall." Berlin 1987

[peyton randolph]

you knew that but decided to go the knee jerk bash Bush route.

I voted for Bush in both '00 and '04. That being said, he is way off the mark when it comes to immigration. His fawning over Vicente Fox during last week's summit, together with his reference to the Minutemen as 'vigilantes,' suggests that Bush is clueless when it comes to public sentiment on the government's failure to do anything substantive on immigration. FWIW, I've lived in Mexico. The middle and upper classes frequently refer to dumping the scum of their society on the U.S. and wonder why we put up with it.

[Dane]

His fawning over Vicente Fox during last week's summit, together with his reference to the Minutemen as 'vigilantes,' suggests that Bush is clueless when it comes to public sentiment on the government's failure to do anything substantive on immigration

It's called diplomacy, what did you expect him to do, slap him in the face, you do not know what is being said in meetings. And he is trying to do something about immigration, it's some in Congress who are trying to keep the issue alive to keep those contributions in PACs flowing, IMO.

[pageonetoo]

I voted for Bush in both '00 and '04. That being said, he is way off the mark when it comes to immigration.

Ditto... and bump!

[peyton randolph]

Oh BTW, when are you going to have the picture of Reagan in a sombrero?

Nice try. Reagan never advocated losing total control of our borders. Moreover, nothing in Reagan's conduct or speech ever indicated that he would have (1) put up with the insolence of Vicente Fox chiding a U.S. President or (2) permitted illegal immigration to be a national security threat.

[Dane]

Nice try. Reagan never advocated losing total control of our borders. Moreover, nothing in Reagan's conduct or speech ever indicated that he would have (1) put up with the insolence of Vicente Fox chiding a U.S. President or (2) permitted illegal immigration to be a national security threat

I'm not going to get into a tit for tat match with you. Reagan's words and policies(free trade and opposition towards walls) stand for themselves.

[peyton randolph]

what did you expect him to do, slap him in the face, you do not know what is being said in meetings.

At the press conference, Fox was smirking and shaking his head as Bush talked. W should have turned to Fox and said, "If you don't like it, get the hell back to Mexico and take 10 million illegals with you...ungrateful clymer." Instead, Bush lets Fox get away with it. This isn't diplomacy. It is being a big p*ssy when it comes to standing up for U.S. national interests.

I realize that George P. Bush is being groomed as the Great Latino Hope of the GOP but we shouldn't lose control of our borders in a pandering effort.

[peyton randolph]

Reagan's words and policies(free trade and opposition towards walls) stand for themselves.

There is a difference between free trade and immigration. Reagan stood for the former. I'll wait for you to provide evidence he stood for unlimited illegal immigration too.

[pageonetoo]

It's called diplomacy, what did you expect him to do, slap him in the face,

"Mr. Gorbachev tear down this wall." Berlin 1987- RR, already quoted (post #7), and you evidently ignored that little bit of "diplomacy"!...

President Bush is more of a panderbear, or enabler, it seems!

Bump for our Minutemen!

[Sen Jack S. Fogbound]

I'm all for this bill. There has been enough watering down the English language (American Style) thru the mixture of other cultures and all that confuses everybody as to the meaning of the laws, rulings, news, and even school!

This country is built by immigrants who came over and learned English so they can take part of what it had to offer.