Posted on 03/28/2005 6:41:56 PM PST by Former Military Chick
I remind you that protesting is legal in America.
If it is not, then why is FR protesting Judicial Activism in Washington DC this week.
I'm very sorry your family died at Dachau. And I am even sorrier there was no one there to protest it or stop it. In Germany it was a non-issue. But Dachau is not as unique as you would like to think of it. And putting it behind thicker paperwork does not change the ultimate outcome. Without visible protest this issue would become a non-issue too.
You're absolutely right. The protesters are not responsible for their actions. The judge made them act in such a boorish and reprehensible fashion. We must try to understand why they would behave this way. Why, it's just the same understanding we must show towards people who commit murder or other violent crimes. We must understand that violent criminals all had horrible childhoods, which can be traced directly to the failed policies of the Reagan and Bush administrations, tax cuts for the wealthy on the backs of the poor, all that sort of thing.
Honestly, some of you people act as though you've entered a parallel universe.
101.1 at 12pm. Used to be a country station. Only reason I happened to flip by it because I thought it still was :) Stopped for a second to listen and have listened the past two weekdays. He's been going off on these people
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Good point.
Please know that I am sickened and disgusted with what has happened to Terri. Her husband is cruel beyond belief. Nevertheless, I can still sympathize with others whose loved ones are dying at that awful place.
This would give some credibility to claims that in reality, she is being treated no different than the other patients.
It also betrays some of the suspicion that Michael prevented personal effects.
I think Michael and Terri got caught up in something larger than a 'family issue'.
Michael's guilt will be up to the LE's, and depend on future events we have no answers to yet.
We are judging him, because we feel we must in order to keep Terri from being killed. Because that seems to be the only means of relief from what appears to be a financial fiasco.
Not all is as it appears. Michael's character aside, he has done everything within legal boundaries.
As hard as I want to believe it, there is no legal review of the proof yet, so Michael is still innocent until proven guilty.
That is also a law of our country. An easy one to forget.
Terri is the tip of the iceberg, and the temperature has gone up, so there may be a flow coming.
Bunch of spoons, all in the same kettle.
If Terri dies, I expect to accept it in the humblest way and will fall silent for awhile.
If Terri dies, I will continue to pray for her and her family, as I have been since I first heard of her and her situation. I will try to find comfort, as I did when I lost my mother and daddy, in knowing that she is in Heaven, having a feast and rejoicing in eternal love.
#58 Why ask, my request will go unheard.
I hear. But it is to easy to get from here to there...once the first step is taken, the rest follow.
I think that MilitaryChick has proven herself and knows enough about legal protest in America. She's been there, done that.
As for the rest, concur.
True, but NAZI estermination began with a request for
'humanitarian' euthanasia for a single hopelessly debilitaed infant. One step follows another. If you don't want to go there, don't take the first step. Don't assume that it will be different here. Just philosophical brain excressence.
There is every difference in the world between the state deciding on its own to take a life, and a state acceding to the spouse's right as a guardian to do what has been determined to be her wishes.
One is the state acting on its own behalf, the other is a loved one acting on behalf of the person.
Now, there's a lot to be discussed about what the spouse should have to prove in order to have this right recognized, and it is good for us to discuss this. But you should never lose sight of the distinction between a state taking a life, as in Nazi Germany, and a state stepping back and allowing a spouse to bring a lost life to a close in the way she would have chosen. The "crime" here is that the state privileges a marriage over a parent-child relationship. That, to me, is peanuts compared to all the evil that came from Nazi Germany.
Facile comparisons to Nazi Germany are lame when they're made in response to Abu Ghraib and they're lame when in response to the Schiavo case. Nazi Germany is not a magic wand for debates, it is the epitome of moral evil and utter social collapse. I'm sorry, but the Schiavo case may seem clear-cut to a few people here, but most Americans disagree. If you think that makes us Nazis, you need to get some perspective and thank the Lord above that we're the type of Nazis you share a country with, and not the real ones. Because the Nazis knew how to deal with protesters in a way that the dramatists outside the Woodside Hospice would never have forgotten.
Good points all, and well expressed.
I neven for a moment thought we were equivalent to NAZI Germany, but I shudder to think how easy it would be to go there from here. I'm thinking a generation or two down the road.
The entire complex should be shut down by the state government, and the doctors who stand by and allow an otherwise healthy disabled woman to be made to suffer the ravages of starvation should lose their license to practice their ghoulish medicine of death.
I do not know how any of the thugs who turned their thumbs down against Terri can feel a sense of triumph, but they do.
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