Posted on 03/28/2005 7:09:05 AM PST by amdgmary
If Terri herself had asked to have the tube removed, or if Terri had put her hands to the tube and pulled it out, I MIGHT agree.
I MIGHT also have just solved my retirement problems. I will build a 10 story building with an enclosed backyard that is completely covered in concrete. I will then sell 1-way tickets to the roof. I would expect NOBODY to interfere with the private decisions of those who buy the tickets.
The guys who collect the remains and cremate them would be part of the ticket price.
Shalom.
And Soylent Green. It's your responsibility to die for the common good.
If Michael had never popped up and said, "She would have wanted to die," would her wishes have been clear?
Shalom.
Regardless, I still maintain that Democrats would have had a political heyday as a result, with the backing of a media that manipulates facts on a whim.
It would not have boded well for us.
Since the Gov. has demonstrated his lack of confidence in the State of FL and called in the Feds over a week ago I think you're on shaky ground. What better signal that a State has lost its Constitutional bearings than a call for help from the Chief Executive Officer?
"I'm not sure we can get it done here in Florida," Martinez quoted (Gov.) Bush as saying just after a new Schiavo measure stalled in the Florida Legislature. "Do whatever you can federally."
For instance, the judicial branch of the government chose to ignore the direct law passed by congress. Not the same problem as Germany at all.
If you wish to avoid another circumstance where a Halocaust can take place, you must preserve the law and use that law to eliminate that possibility. Asking our executive to actually become like Hitler and ignore the law will not accomplish that.
Another quick thought I failed to address in my last post - who's to say?
Who's to say that, in this period of time where people are conditioned to believe that the courts are the law that the local police would not have interpretted an order by the Executive as an unlawful order, regardless of its constitutionality?
I think it was a showdown best avoided.
I too, and my will says keep me alife till the insurance companies cry uncle and then more. Has onyone read any articles on the blogs about contributions from insurance co. to official in the Shiavo case?
If Terri had signed a living will I might agree that you have no standing.
However, I agree with you that it is mind-boggling that the courts don't just tell Michael, "Look, as far as you're concerned, she's dead. Even if she ever comes out of it we will not let her approach you for a penny nor a moment of your time. We'll protect you from any hint you ever had a wife before your current babe. Her parents are taking over."
They want her, but he doesn't. Because he is her guardian, he has the sole say. She is unwanted and, thus, must die.
Every invalid a wanted invalid.
Shalom.
Based on what I am hearing this is already taking place. What about the cost (moral and monetary) of what I believe brought us to this place in history--organ donation?
Frankenstein medicine! Plug all into life-support because hospitals are required to ask if you want to donate organs of your loved ones.
Ditto, here.
Vox rocks.
I take your points seriously with all due respect. If the consequences of inaction here didn't carry such enormous implications of the destruction of the right framework of Constitutional government I would be less inclined to hope for great risks to be taken. This is pivotal. Whichever way it goes it will be very difficult to swing the pendulum back. The course to be decided is whether we stand on the ground that a human being has a right to be treated as a human being in all circumstances or is it conditional to popular opinion?
Come 2008, this whole thing will be largely forgotten. Count on it.
They will anyway.
The only requirement for Evil to succeed is that good men do nothing.
It's not you, but I've been in far too many situations where those who have right on their side are afraid to act because "we can't win."
Where is Don Quixote when you need him?
To dream, the impossible dream.
To fight the unbeatable foe.
To bear with unbearable sorrows.
To run where the brave dare not go.
To right the unrightable wrong.
To love pure and chaste from afar.
To try when your arms are too weary
To reach the unreachable star.
This is my quest to follow that star,
No matter how hopeless, no matter how far.
To fight for the right without question or pause.
To be willing to march into Hell for a Heavenly cause.
And I know if I'll only be true to this glorious quest
That my heart will lie peaceful and calm when I'm laid to my rest.
And the world will be better for this
That one man, scorned, and covered with scars
Still strove, with his last ounce of courage
To reach the unreachable star.
Words by Joe Darion (emphasis mine).
Shalom.
Didja know they are working on a re-make?
Good point, I never looked at it that way. Thanks.
Asking our Executive to oppose the judge who had already begun to act like Hitler would not be a problem, IMHO.
True, the Executive could take it too far. Then we would have a similar problem to the one we have now, just with a different branch. I think, however, we could have counted on the current holder of that office to not take it too far.
Apparently, that wasn't the problem.
Shalom.
Logan's Run, where everyone over 30 or so was put to death, mandated by the state.
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