The Boston Tea Party (or, it's our fault Terry is dying)

Eyewitness to History ^ | 1773 | George Hewes

[Chad Fairbanks]

K. Just checking.

[RightWhale]

What you are talking about is an example of the purpose the FedGov was created. Differences between states weaken the Union and where the differences lead to overall weakness in the Union the Fed Gov was given the authority by the various states to step in and equalize. A schism over the TS case seems possible.

[Vicomte13]

Tibikak ishkwata!

[Chad Fairbanks]

Eskibate oglidorf gusbeeskus.

[Vicomte13]

Eskibood?

Kawin nid-Eskiboodwemo.

But we should keep trying anyway.

What's "oglidorf"?

(In Ojibwe, you almost said something close to "I'm a sinking Eskimo" But what're you sinking IN? Well, other than the OBVIOUS that we're all up to our eyeballs in.)

[Chad Fairbanks]

I don't speak Chippewa... Sorry. I just made up words. :)

[Vicomte13]

Ok.

But "Eskibate" means "Eskimo". I figured with a name like Fairbanks, you were Anishinabe from up there. (And a crazy backwoodsman.)

I figured maybe it was Eskimo.

[knarf]

You're from India?

/8^)

[Chad Fairbanks]

I don't like Eskimos. I have a genetic predisposition to want to kill them, so I stay away from them... My Mohawk/Mic Mac/Blackfoot heritage makes me that way.

I used to be a crazy woodsman, but now I am a crazy suburbanite... ;0)

[datura]

Thank you for explaining my feelings about the Sioux Nation. I'm Cherokee, but was raised in South Dakota.

[Chad Fairbanks]

LOL... When people lump "Indians" into one group, it cracks me up. If they only knew half of the bad blood and grudges LOL...

[HonestAbe]

ping

[StonyBurk]

Excellent thread. (If I use the terms correctly) I am reminded that the preceeding President -when he declared the Stonewall Inn in NewYork City to be now a national treasure and tax monies used to restore that burned out and
abandonded hulk that once trafficked in illegal sex and drugs-- the Clintonistas attmepted to defame true patriots
by comparing the queer riots that followed a legal police raid on the Stonewall Inn comparable to the Boston Tea Party.I see No comparison at all. I do fear should patriotic Americans attempt to grant Terri her God given
rights they would be put down like Shay's Rebellion.The
political house erected by Ben Franklin and his peers is fallen.

[Brad’s Gramma]

BTTT, dware...

[Vicomte13]

Example: The Sioux aren't Sioux, at least as far as their concerned! (well, unless they're conflicted - more on this in a minute). They're Dakota (or Lakota)(or Ogallalla, depending on who you ask and where, and why).

The Sioux are...or rather were..."sioux"" to the Chippewa et al. Because "sioux" (or rather, soo) was said to have meant "Enemy", to the Chippewa who had to live next to them. (actually, the word origin is probably more like "hard ones" or really "tough bastards", which is not inaccurate looking either way across that old divide).

Presumably the Sioux don't hate themselves.
For that matter, the Chippewa don't really hate the Sioux anymore. I mean, why bother? There are assholes right up the block to hate. Why waste energy on great grampa's feuds?

Johnny Cash told us all about how folks have moved on in his immortal ballad "A Boy Named Sioux".

[Chad Fairbanks]

ROTFLMAO

[Nowhere Man]

I agree with your assessment. However you must also know that during the revolution less than 4% of the entire population (british soldiers and Colonists together) participated in the rebellion. Most everyone else either gave passive lip service or simply went about their normal every day lives while men of honor and courage fought and died for their freedoms.

So technically speaking not alot has changed over the last 225 years except now we have more people on the continent that are apathetic.

I remember hearing that 5% were the true fighters of the American Revolution and then the population at large, you generally had the "1/3rd rule" where 33.3% were for the American Revolution and although might not have fought, supported the Revolution with money, goods ar even just on a moral basis. Another 33.3% were for the British and supported that side with money, goods or on a moral basis. The last 33.3% didn't care one way or another

Not all of us can be frontline soldiers because of where we are in our lives and what we can or cannot do, I know I'm of very limited means and Florida is a far trip from Pittsburgh for me, but I try to support Terri and her right to life the best that I can by letting my local politicians and Jeb Bush know where I stand. I wish I could do more. If I was in Florida, I would be with the protestors.

One thing though, we did talk to my aunt who wanted Terri to die but after talking to my mom and I as well as seeing what is going on, she changed sides to let her live.

[Smartaleck]

"IN THE MATTER OF THERESA MARIE SCHIAVO"

"The cause of the imbalance was not clearly identified, but may be linked, in theory, to her drinking 10-15 glasses of iced tea each day."

Kind of ironic huh?

[Vicomte13]

I think the best one-upmanship in US Indian history was when Longfellow, whose epic poem actually does a fairly good job of cobbling together lots of real legends and myths, makes Hiawatha a Chippewa and puts him "On the shore of Gitchee Gumee, by the shining big-sea water stood the wigwam of Nokomis, daughter of the wind Nokomis."

So, all at once, the great Hiawatha was transformed from being the great unifying chief of the Iroquois in upstate New York, to being a Lake Superior Chippewa, with a whole different language, and even, in the end, a different religion (because Hiawatha ends with the coming of the "black robes" - French Catholic missionaries, who went up there in Michigan, but not into enemy Mohawk territory of the Iroquois).

So if we're counting coup, you Mohawks got all the glory, but we ended up getting the story, and evermore everyone who reads it or hears the story "knows" that your Hiawatha was our Michigan boy.

Heh heh heh.

[Chad Fairbanks]

Except that Hiawatha merely the disciple of Deganawidah (De-ka-nah-wi-da)...