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In a Polarizing Case, Jeb Bush Cements His Political Stature
The New York Times ^ | March 25, 2005 | ADAM NAGOURNEY

Posted on 03/24/2005 10:10:41 PM PST by Former Military Chick

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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
I think every time he turns around, he should see one of us with a sign saying: "MURDERER!" or we could just tar and feather the scum sucking backard!

LOL

better make it the latter as he's legally blind (as well as morally) - and wouldn't see the signs

161 posted on 03/24/2005 11:46:56 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: AntiGuv

And what issues are most important to you?


162 posted on 03/24/2005 11:47:10 PM PST by faithincowboys
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To: faithincowboys; k2blader
What specifically is so great about them?

They are smart enough to agree with me on most of the issues. ;^) Well, except that Ron Paul is a little too isolationist for my tastes (like someone else mentioned).

163 posted on 03/24/2005 11:47:28 PM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: faithincowboys
Is there no nurse in that hospice willing to reinsert the tube??

there is a policeman in the room at all times - anyone even trying to put a wet wash cloth on her now cracked and bleeding mouth would be immediately arrested

164 posted on 03/24/2005 11:48:25 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: SoCar

My only complaint is that he made such a big deal by calling a news conference and announcing they had found a way to save Terri and then nothing has been done. I realize something could still happen, but as one who is not in the know, and knows that I am not in the know, I find it very frustrating. Have I mentioned that I'm frustrated? Thank you for your calm, reasoned approach to the situation.


165 posted on 03/24/2005 11:48:38 PM PST by jwpjr
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To: AntiGuv

:-)

BTW, I have seen Owens' name punted around before. I'm interested in him.


166 posted on 03/24/2005 11:48:56 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: maine-iac7

is he really legally blind? I never heard that. Maybe we can just shout murderer alot.

But I do like the sound of a good old fashioned tar and feathering.


167 posted on 03/24/2005 11:50:48 PM PST by Big Guy and Rusty 99 (Watch out for bears, to them you are spaghetti dinner)
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To: maine-iac7

And what is wrong with the police?

Clearly, our society is falling apart at every level. Nobody risks anything for anything. The only one determined to push his agenda is Judge Greer-- his desire to kill Terri is far greater than anybody else's desire to save her.


168 posted on 03/24/2005 11:51:07 PM PST by faithincowboys
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To: Lori675
Jeb is a coward. He'll never send in the police to save her.

once again - maybe it needs to be said loudly :

Greer has already ordered his police that surround the hospice not to let any state police on the grounds.

you think a shoot out will work?

169 posted on 03/24/2005 11:52:33 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

How would it be crossing a line for Jeb to just call the police back from the hospice?

Terri's family could try to feed her.

Right now they are nothing but concentration camp guards.


170 posted on 03/24/2005 11:52:48 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

Exactly! He should be persona non grata--and treated just like other wife-murdering scum--OJ Simpson comes to mind.

He may have gotten away with murder--but people boo and hiss when he steps into a restaurant or onto a golf course.

This man is a little smarter than OJ--getting the state to murder his wife and do the dirty work for him--but he is no better than him. A low-life murdering scum. And I hope people NEVER forget that.

Don't get distracted and blame Bush--blame the republicans--blame the only people who have done anything to try to save her life. Put the blame on the MURDERERS and enablers--put the blame on the people that have worked tirelessly to kill this woman.


171 posted on 03/24/2005 11:53:25 PM PST by OH Swing Voter
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To: maine-iac7

Greer does not LEGALLY have any police.


172 posted on 03/24/2005 11:54:16 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: jwpjr

we heard you the first two times


173 posted on 03/24/2005 11:54:57 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: faithincowboys

Balancing the budgets (inc. entitlements), illegal immigration, and foreign policy (both trade deals & the WoT). Those aren't in any order by priority; I can't really place one above the others. The WoD is also a big issue for me, as increasingly will be energy policy I suspect, but there isn't much to work with on the former (nearly all politicians toe the line) and the latter is more of an abstract concern. I'm very concerned about scientific progress and maintaining our technological edge as well, but the ways that politicians matter to that mostly fit into the issue areas I already listed above.


174 posted on 03/24/2005 11:55:12 PM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: maine-iac7

Does this mean that Greer could issue orders to the myriad police around the hospice that they should permit armed robbery or rape or grand theft and they would have no choice but to follow his order? There is a Florida statue that makes stepping in to save an abused, disabled adult just as legal as armed robbery, rape and grand theft are illegal. If he can order that law not to be enforced then what keeps him from ordering any other law not to be enforced. Please understand, I'm not trying to be combative! I honestly don't understand how a judge at the county level can order police in his jurisdiction not to enforce a law, or worse still order the police to interfere with those who are acting lawfully to enforce a law. Thanks in advance for not taking offense at my inability to express my concerns any clearer.


175 posted on 03/24/2005 11:56:49 PM PST by jwpjr
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

Bingo


176 posted on 03/25/2005 12:00:51 AM PST by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: faithincowboys

Oh, and education policy is very important to me as well, but perhaps just slightly below the big three I mentioned - mainly because I don't have crystal clear views on how that should get handled and also because it's primarily a state issue, or should be. It would be a non-issue to me on the presidential level if education weren't becoming a federalized sphere. That's the first criterion I use for governors, not nearly so much for presidents.


177 posted on 03/25/2005 12:01:02 AM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: OH Swing Voter

exactly, they have done all they legally can. They can do more.

Hey, It would be easy to take Michael Schivo out and beat him in the head with a bat until he is in a persistant vegetative state, but it would be illegal. We can't take the law into out own hands, no matter how frustrating it is, because then we become just as bad as greer. We all know he did it, it's all matter of evidence. He will be caught, if not by men then by the supreme judge

FOR VENGENCE IS MINE, SO SAYETH THE LORD . . .


178 posted on 03/25/2005 12:01:12 AM PST by Big Guy and Rusty 99 (Watch out for bears, to them you are spaghetti dinner)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
is he really legally blind? I never heard that. Maybe we can just shout murderer alot. But I do like the sound of a good old fashioned tar and feathering.

I've both read it and heard it - legally blind.

as for the other - i got lots of feather pillows - you got tar?

179 posted on 03/25/2005 12:03:31 AM PST by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: maine-iac7
if you're making a reference to the Elian G case

Those were my comments, and no, I am not referring to the Elian G. case. Existing Florida law allows the DCF to intervene on an emergency basis. They would then have to notify a court within 24 hours, weekends and holidays excepted, as to what they had done. That means Monday. A hearing would then be scheduled, which requires another 24 hours advance notice to the parties. If they go in tonight, the earliest that Greer could get his hands on her is late Tuesday some time. And Greer might not even get the case; he might be one of the "parties," disqualifying him from also being the judge.

I am aware that Greer has enjoined them from enforcing an existing Florida law, but that's not a case he really wants to fight. Ordering an executive-branch official to not enforce the law was not smart thing for a judge to have done. He could get impeached for that. Let's hope he is. For sure he is not going to be able to sanction anyone in the executive branch for carrying out his duties under a Florida statute.


180 posted on 03/25/2005 12:04:24 AM PST by Nick Danger (You can stick a fork in the Mullahs -- they're done.)
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