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Vibrant Cities Find One Thing Missing: Children [vibrant??, rich, immature adults don't want kids]
New York Times ^ | Mar 24, 2005 | TIMOTHY EGAN

Posted on 03/23/2005 8:36:59 PM PST by Mike Fieschko

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To: Mike Fieschko
but horrors!!!!......they'll have to stop this nonsense about the teaching shortage won't they, if there are less kids....

oh, I forgot...now, the new mantra is "smaller class size"....for the children, of course.....

21 posted on 03/23/2005 9:26:04 PM PST by cherry
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To: Mike Fieschko
But the real estate is becoming outrageously expensive. And then you get wealthy singles and wealthy retirees. What's missing are kids. And that feels really sterile to me

If I'm not mistaken, North San Diego & South Orange counties are expensive places to live and they have a number of families not only living there, but moving there.

22 posted on 03/23/2005 9:29:32 PM PST by Troublemaker
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To: undercover brother

Sounds like they're both spoken for!


24 posted on 03/23/2005 9:42:46 PM PST by xrp (Executing assigned posting duties flawlessly -- ZERO mistakes)
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To: Mike Fieschko

I lived in a neighborhood of single family homes "close in" in Portland (not 5 miles from the Pearl District) that had tons of kids. Nice tree lined streets, sidewalks, schools nearby .... kids out outside playing all the time, very vibrant.


26 posted on 03/23/2005 9:52:10 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: Mike Fieschko

I lived in a neighborhood of single family homes "close in" in Portland (not 5 miles from the Pearl District) that had tons of kids. Nice tree lined streets, sidewalks, schools nearby .... kids out outside playing all the time, very vibrant.


27 posted on 03/23/2005 9:52:20 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: Mike Fieschko

Old America is dying out, just like Europe is. Godless liberalism is anti-life in every way. From taking money away from the young and fertile to finance the old's pensions.. to homosexuality, to abortion etc..

These young liberal women, how can they have children when it would hurt their career advancement and change their figures?


28 posted on 03/23/2005 9:57:17 PM PST by ran15
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To: Mike Fieschko

"It's a real challenge trying to raise a kid in San Francisco,"

Believe me, it is a real challenge just trying to drive with my kids through San Francisco (if I must).


29 posted on 03/23/2005 10:17:57 PM PST by Gal.5:1 (note to self: speak the truth in love)
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To: Mike Fieschko
"If you took immigrants out of the equation, the United States would be like the rest of Europe," said Phillip Longman, a senior fellow at the New America Foundation, a public policy research organization in Washington.

Ah, but you can't take immigrants out of the equation. New Americans are created nearly every day and they are a source of constant renewal for the country. I used to work near Golden Hall in downtown San Diego and always enjoyed seeing the long lines of people waiting to take their oath of citizenship.

30 posted on 03/23/2005 10:34:46 PM PST by macbee ("Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." - Napoleon Bonaparte)
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Seattle, where there are more dogs than children, was a close second.

I live on Bainbridge Island, which is a 35-minute ferry ride from Seattle. The average home price here is a good bit higher than in Seattle, but Seattlites are flocking here because Seattle schools, well, stink! Would you prefer to live in an expensive, child-unfriendly community like Seattle, where you have to spend extra money to give your child a descent education? Or, would you prefer moving to a child-friendly community with great schools where any extra money can be invested in a home and property? There may be a lot of relocated Seattle libs on this island, but no one can say that folks here don't cherish children. They also love their dogs for that matter.

31 posted on 03/23/2005 11:17:06 PM PST by lil varmint
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To: xrp
It's been very hard to me to find any Euro-stock American women who want to have more than 0 or 1 children.

Have you ever been to Salt Lake City? They still believe in large families.

32 posted on 03/23/2005 11:20:28 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: DBeers

When I visit San Francisco (have friends there; actually kind of stopped going there since I can't stand it any more) I notice there are not many children visible in many areas. Same thing when I used to live in Portland.

Pure selfishness and hedonism. Live for the moment selfish gratification, with homosexuality being the ultimate in me-centered pleasure. Of course, it certainly wouldn't be "pleasure" for those who are normal.


33 posted on 03/24/2005 12:35:56 AM PST by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it)
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To: Barnacle
(Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)


You: How about knocking-off this blasphemy?

Me: Amazing!

Me: According to YOU, God is now a LIAR when it comes to Creation and you call me a blasphemer!

I will NEVER change my moniker and certainly not because of YOU!

LOL!!!!!
34 posted on 03/24/2005 4:09:51 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Mike Fieschko

The author seems to think that the people moving into these trendy neighborhoods are a cross section of America, or that they stick around when they want to have kids. My wife and I lived in a neighborhood like this before having children. But we don't want to raise our kids where crime is high, gays run rampant, liberal thoughts prevail, where they'll get hit by a bus if they step out the front door alone, and where there are no neighborhood other kids. So we moved out.


35 posted on 03/24/2005 4:25:32 AM PST by Toskrin (What a world, what a world!)
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To: FreedomCalls

Yes, I've been to Salt Lake City.


36 posted on 03/24/2005 5:14:56 AM PST by xrp (Executing assigned posting duties flawlessly -- ZERO mistakes)
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To: nmh
Me: According to YOU, God is now a LIAR when it comes to Creation and you call me a blasphemer!

Creation is not the issue. Believe in Creationism if you please. Putting words in God's mouth is the issue here.

Please tell me where in the Bible the following quote can be found;

"Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God)."

37 posted on 03/24/2005 2:32:06 PM PST by Barnacle
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To: Mike Fieschko

I think you're referring to "yuppies," and that's nothing new.. and I'm often irritated by people's apparent materialism or shallowness. But the idea that not having children necessarily equates to selfishness or immaturity is not always true (or even very often true, imo.) Come to the deep south where some families don't know when to stop having kids, even when they cannot support them (or don't even seem interested in raising them).

It cuts both ways.


38 posted on 03/24/2005 2:37:54 PM PST by buckleyfan (WFB, save us!)
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To: nmh
Me: According to YOU, God is now a LIAR when it comes to Creation and you call me a blasphemer!

Creation is not the issue. Believe in Creationism if you please. Putting words in God's mouth is the issue here.

Please tell me where in the Bible the following quote can be found;

"Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God)."

39 posted on 03/24/2005 4:10:35 PM PST by Barnacle
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To: Barnacle
Please tell me where in the Bible the following quote can be found;

"Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God)."





It's obvious. Not everything needs to be in the Bible. Either you believe Him or you don't.

Intelligent people DO recognize Intelligent Design.

Apparently you don't fall into that group. That's your problem.

Wise men still seek Him. The apostle Paul stated if something is untrue in the Bible then it would all be false. I agree with him. I believe it is all true, right on down to a 6 day, 24 hour Creation just as He stated. The Hebrew bears this out.

You don't have to believe that. It is a choice. Intelligent people DO believe that. Intelligent people can look at all we see and things we have trouble seeing - microscopic, and the evidence of Intelligent Design, God, is overwhelming. Only a fool would deny that.

40 posted on 03/24/2005 5:03:36 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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