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A Political Victory That Wasn't
New York Times ^ | March 23, 2005 | Andrew Kohut

Posted on 03/23/2005 4:46:14 AM PST by billorites

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To: billorites

Who ever said this was a political strategy? The Republicans? NO. the MSM!

Unbelieveable that they state the public is against this, then feed the line they did this for political gain.


21 posted on 03/23/2005 5:18:46 AM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: billorites
[The author of this article] Andrew Kohut is president of the Pew Research Center.

Oh yeah, the Pew Center. That non biased research place that admitted it engaged in political subterfuge in support of campaign finance reform. Uh huh.

22 posted on 03/23/2005 5:20:16 AM PST by Obadiah
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To: billorites

This ABC Poll is being touted right and left by the MSM. Yet, take a look at the way the question was phrased and you will see that the respondents were duped into thinking that Terri was lying comatose in a bed with all manner of breathing apparatus and artificial life support sustaining her. A lot of mileage for a fraudulent poll.


23 posted on 03/23/2005 5:42:00 AM PST by standupfortruth
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To: billorites

Of course, you realize that they surveyed the women coming out of the Abortion Clinic, employees of the ACLU, employees of NOW, Cosmopolitan Magizne, etc.

They never asked ME!

The New York Slimes lives down to its own level.

GAG.


24 posted on 03/23/2005 5:43:14 AM PST by HighlyOpinionated (SAVE TERRI SCHIAVO'S LIFE -- send in the Guard or Marshalls. Let's Roll!)
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To: billorites
The 2004 election taught us a very important lesson "those who live by the polls, they die by the polls". Those are the liberals.

I am very glad that liberals are our opponents, they are too dumb to ever win again, ever.

25 posted on 03/23/2005 5:43:24 AM PST by jveritas
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To: Sicon
Please do not state facts and reality to liberals. They love to live in their own insane delusional world where they think they are always a victorious super majority.
26 posted on 03/23/2005 5:46:36 AM PST by jveritas
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To: billorites
Several of us on FR have gone through the death of a family member in the past year or so:
I can guarantee Mr. Kohut that "pragmatic" does not describe what generally goes along with that experience.

And try as I might I can't come up with a word to describe what has gone along with Mr. Schiavo's actions over the past many years.
(Well, I can but I'd be thrown out of the "Christian Conservative Movement" if I repeated any of them.)

27 posted on 03/23/2005 5:49:59 AM PST by norton (build a wall and post the rules at the gate)
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To: billorites
Demography is another cautionary constraint. As the electorate ages and baby boomers further dominate the political discussion, they will tend to push public opinion in the direction that reflects their own situations.

The big cautionary constraint is lack of knowledge. On both issues the truth is being hidden by the MSM. These demographics skew toward people who still get most of their information from the MSM and believe the MSM when they say, "And that's the way it is."

Terri Schiavo is not on life support, is not in a coma, and is not in a "permanent vegitative state." Fetal stem cell research shows almost no promise, especially when compared with umbilical and adult stem cell research. When people know these facts they answer differently than when they don't.

Shalom.

28 posted on 03/23/2005 5:55:08 AM PST by ArGee (Why do we let the abnormal tell us what's normal?)
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"A nationwide Pew poll last August found respondents by a 52 percent to 34 percent margin saying it was more important to conduct stem-cell research that might result in new cures than to avoid destroying the potential life of embryos."

I think we should trust Pew----NOT

THE STENCH FROM PEW (videotape exposes phony buzz created for McCain-Feingold CFR) ^http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=pew


29 posted on 03/23/2005 5:56:43 AM PST by texjan
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To: billorites
It is rare for Washington politicians to buck public opinion.

and in this case, it is called leadership -- as opposed to a society and an elite that is callous about the value of human life.

30 posted on 03/23/2005 5:57:44 AM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: billorites
The NYT misses the real political disaster here.

The GOP has shown that they can draft a bill, pass it, and get it to the President's desk, all in a weekend, even if the public opinion polls are strongly pointing the other way.

I damn well expect them to show the same determination to get my taxes down to a reasonable level, stop 15.3% of my paycheck from vanishing down a black hole, win in Iraq or get the hell out of it (either would be an improvement), et cetera. I very much doubt that this is a unique opinion.

31 posted on 03/23/2005 6:14:22 AM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: jveritas

Libs too dumb to ever win, may you be right but they are evil and very, very immoral. Rules do not apply to Demon-crats


32 posted on 03/23/2005 6:54:41 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero.)
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To: billorites
It must suck to be a DemocRAT, you win when a soldier dies, you win when the price of gas goes up, you win when the poor people of Iraq get killed by a deranged zealot and you win when an innocent soul is taken away from her parents.
33 posted on 03/23/2005 8:07:24 AM PST by Mike Darancette (MESOCONS FOR RICE '08)
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