Buying Big Guns? No Big Deal

'60 Minutes' Special Report ^ | Mar 20, 2005

[Future Snake Eater]

Recommended Solution: This self confessed felon should be arrested, prosecuted and appropriately sentenced for his illegal entry into this country, violation of our firearms export laws, his ill-gotten American citizenship revoked, and after he serves time for his crimes he should be deported.

No. Just ban the gun.

And stop making sense.

[tgambill]

Clinton lied about the Balkans......the story is true. I was there for five years from 1999 to 2004. I am an American and worked security there in a high level position. Long story short......We have supported the Albanian terrorist in their bid to take over Kosovo built on total deception. I know this for a fact........

[tgambill]

He was supported by the Clinton Administration as our government supported the KLA along with the UN forces. It's still going on....even up to today.....

[from occupied ga]

14.5 mm is the standard (former) comblock HMG caliber. Frequently found mounted on BTRs and BMPs It would be great if these cartridges were imported in any quantity and firearms fro them were widely available since they're one up on the 12.7mm (.50 cal) The "real" 14.5mm rnd has a much larger case than the .50 cal. and I believe that the bullet is in the 960 gr range

[wita]

The country should have had the sense not to be invloved, but they chose poorly.

[from occupied ga]

The two middle sized rounds (4th and 5th from left) are the comblock 12.7x108mm and the 14.5x114 mm rnd. Note that the 12.7 comblock has a larger case than the 12.7 browning (12.7x99)

[tgambill]

Yes, but in the same sense, "No"...it's worse than just making a wrong decision, It was planned to get involved as a strategy for a bigger plan. That's why we aligned ourselves with the Muh. from Afghan. and supported their activities against the Serbs in Bosnia, Croatia and Kosovo. This is a fact actually. Yes, they chose poorly in a sense...but the choice was strategy. Long story.......

[wita]

I'm a little confused. Just what was the strategy/bigger plan other than the removal of Milosovic, for the US to back the muslims of Albania, or, our misguided efforts to cause the Russians problems in their fight in Afghanistan? These seem like pretty narrow and unnessesary points in the greater scheme of things, but those were the ideas the media seemed to be expressing.

[ol painless]

Yes, I have seen the Russian 12.7x108mm before. I have often wandered if anyone in the US is ever going to chamber a rifle in this larger round. Does anybody offer it in the US?

[from occupied ga]

Not as far as I know. There is a south african amr that can be chambered for the 14.5x114, but as far as I know they aren't available to lowly serfs in the USA.

[Dead Corpse]

Why ressurect a story almost a year out of date?

Just curious...

[ol painless]

Is the 14.5x114mm considered a destructive device by the ATF?

[Dead Corpse]

Without Bush the Eldar's "sporting purpose" ban, I'd be hot on the trail of a Hungarian Gepard in 12.7mmx108. Mush more accurate than the Russian versions. More so even than a lot of the 12.7mmx99 US versions.

[tgambill]

just going through the forum and came across this post. The story is actually not out of date. It is going on presently, as our policy is the same and Kosovo is up for their independence bid. The Democrats are coming up for the election period and their misgivings are responsible for this amazing hoax of history...true story. Here is just another symptom......

The same characters are pulling the strings and will be involved in the future attacks after the independence issue is for or against.

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http://calibre.mworld.com/m/m.w?lp=GetStory&id=184568711

Bosnian police say 250 Arab Muslims under surveillance for possible terrorist links

Released : Feb 16, 2006 8:03 AM

SARAJEVO, Bosnia-Herzegovina-Bosnian authorities have placed up to 250 Arab Muslims who fought in Bosnia's 1992-95 war under surveillance on suspicion that they may have terrorist links, a top police official said Thursday.



Zlatko Miletic, director of police for the Muslim-Croat part of Bosnia told reporters the suspects all lived in or around the northeastern village of Gornja Maoca, where they settled after the war. Miletic said the Muslims were among 740 who obtained Bosnian passports during or just after the war, and that the names of nine men appeared on Egypt's list of most-wanted terror suspects.



He declined to identify the nine, and said Bosnian authorities could not be certain they were still in the country.



Police are keeping close tabs on Gornja Maoca's Muslims, and believe some have direct or indirect links to international terrorism, Miletic said. Some of the 250 under surveillance were suspected of involvement in the illegal smuggling of explosives, he said, but would not elaborate.



Several thousand mujahedeen, or Islamic fighters, came to Bosnia to fight on the Muslim side against Serbs and Croats after Bosnia dissolved into ethnic conflict in the early 1990s.



Bosnian authorities have stepped up their monitoring of fundamentalist Islamic groups and individuals since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the United States.



In October, police in Sarajevo raided an apartment and arrested two men after seizing plastic explosives, a suicide belt and a videotape in which a masked man begged Allah's forgiveness for the sacrifice the group was about to commit. More suspects were arrested in Bosnia, Britain and Denmark in what authorities said was a terror cell plotting an attack on a European embassy.



The probe began Oct. 19, when police in Sarajevo arrested Mirsad Bektasevic, 19, a Swedish citizen, and Cesur Abdulkadir, 18, a Turkish national, on suspicion they were preparing terrorist activities. Three Bosnian nationals later were arrested in follow-up raids.



None has been formally charged, and Miletic did not link the surveillance of the 250 in Gornja Maoca to the Sarajevo case.



Bosnian people arrested 16 terrorist suspects in 2005, among whom five were suspected of involvement in international terrorism, Miletic said. He said some were involved in illegal weapons smuggling and that others were charged with endangering international personnel in Bosnia.



About 6,500 troops with the European Union peacekeeping force patrol the country, and hundreds of other foreigners work for the United Nations and other international organizations.



Although the vast majority of Bosnia's Muslims are secular or embrace a moderate and tolerant form of Islam, authorities have expressed concern about the presence of radical elements. Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries have built numerous mosques and set up dozens of charities in Bosnia since the end of the war, including several that have been shut down because of suspected links to terrorism or terrorist financing.

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[from occupied ga]

Dunno - I think anything 0ver 12.7 is automatically considered a DD unless there is some specific exception - like on the site you referenced. Ammo collectors can get live 14.5x114 rounds without paying the tax, so maybe not. I just don't know.