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Terri [Schiavo] and Executive Power
RenewAmerica.us ^ | March 22, 2005 | David Quackenbush

Posted on 03/23/2005 1:31:50 AM PST by EternalVigilance

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1 posted on 03/23/2005 1:31:50 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Gelato; Broadside; Waywardson; Perelandra; ~EagleNebula~; Jim Robinson; floriduh voter

This is what we're down to, folks.


2 posted on 03/23/2005 1:34:10 AM PST by EternalVigilance ("I was hungry, and you gave me no food; thirsty, and you gave me no drink." -Jesus Christ)
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To: EternalVigilance
Judges are our masters and we're their slaves. They thumb their finger at a law passed by the people and they tell us in no many words, "up yours"! And they get away with it knowing Congress and state legislatures don't have the balls to impeach them and remove them from office or to put an end to their usurpation of the elected branches of government's powers. The situation in this country has now evolved to rule of, for and by the Judges - on behalf of our elite liberal ruling class.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
3 posted on 03/23/2005 1:38:06 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: EternalVigilance

If nothing else, the law passed this past weekend on Terri's behalf would make enforcing it a reasonable action, even if the government may be sued by her husband as a result.

I would move the appropriate law enforcement in to "handle" the situation, immediately.


4 posted on 03/23/2005 1:41:40 AM PST by ConservativeMind
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To: goldstategop

I totally agree with you.


5 posted on 03/23/2005 1:42:32 AM PST by EternalVigilance ("I was hungry, and you gave me no food; thirsty, and you gave me no drink." -Jesus Christ)
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To: goldstategop

This is now the critical question, as I predicted it would be weeks ago.

Will the Executive act as a co-equal branch of government it was meant to be?

Or will someone we have loved and supported, Governor Jeb Bush, bow (as so many of our elected officials do today), at the altar of the false god of 'Judicial Supremacy'?

It would seem that other than the Legislative solution we are still hoping and praying and working for, this is our ony earthly hope for saving Terri.


6 posted on 03/23/2005 1:43:27 AM PST by EternalVigilance ("I was hungry, and you gave me no food; thirsty, and you gave me no drink." -Jesus Christ)
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To: ConservativeMind
LOL! You mean the same "law enforcement" that's arrested people for bring Terri food and water? Don't be naive. The elite liberal ruling class is not about to allow a simple little thing like respect for human life to get in the way of their plans for the country.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
7 posted on 03/23/2005 1:44:16 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: EternalVigilance

It's mano-to-mano time! Time to grow a set! Time when real men step up!


8 posted on 03/23/2005 1:47:38 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: EternalVigilance

One slight quible. The Founding Fathers didn't intend the branches to be co-equal. Congess has the big stick, if they choose to use it.


9 posted on 03/23/2005 1:48:05 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: EternalVigilance

Article. III.
Section. 1.

The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services, a Compensation, which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.
Section. 2.

Clause 1: The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;--to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls;--to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction;--to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;--to Controversies between two or more States;--between a State and Citizens of another State; --between Citizens of different States, --between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.

Clause 2: In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make.

Clause 3: The Trial of all Crimes, except in Cases of Impeachment, shall be by Jury; and such Trial shall be held in the State where the said Crimes shall have been committed; but when not committed within any State, the Trial shall be at such Place or Places as the Congress may by Law have directed.
Section. 3.

Clause 1: Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

Clause 2: The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.

Article. IV.
Section. 1.

Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.
Section. 2.

Clause 1: The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.

Clause 2: A Person charged in any State with Treason, Felony, or other Crime, who shall flee from Justice, and be found in another State, shall on Demand of the executive Authority of the State from which he fled, be delivered up, to be removed to the State having Jurisdiction of the Crime.

Clause 3: No Person held to Service or Labour in one State, under the Laws thereof, escaping into another, shall, in Consequence of any Law or Regulation therein, be discharged from such Service or Labour, but shall be delivered up on Claim of the Party to whom such Service or Labour may be due.


10 posted on 03/23/2005 1:48:59 AM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (What are we as a country without our God Our law or our Constitution FREEDOM pales without all 3)
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To: EternalVigilance
The irony is the only we could save her is by breaking the law and spiriting her away to an undisclosed location so she could be fed and cared for. I know exactly what this means. All my life, I've been a law-abiding citizen. So now, why would we have to break man's laws in order to save a human life? People shouldn't be forced into that kind of situation but if I had to make the choice, my values would override my respect for what I view as an abuse of the law by the authorities. I would do anything to save an innocent person, except to take a life. So yes, I would break every law short of murder to see to it an innocent person got fed and cared for and was kept safe from those who would see that person harmed. A radical philosophy - but if the courts allow Terri to die I believe we're going to see people do whatever it takes to foster a respect for human life in this country, the law be damned.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
11 posted on 03/23/2005 1:51:26 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Fifth Amendment

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

13 posted on 03/23/2005 1:53:46 AM PST by EternalVigilance ("I was hungry, and you gave me no food; thirsty, and you gave me no drink." -Jesus Christ)
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To: goldstategop

Gotta grab a couple hours of sleep. My wake up call is coming in a couple short hours...


14 posted on 03/23/2005 1:55:36 AM PST by EternalVigilance ("I was hungry, and you gave me no food; thirsty, and you gave me no drink." -Jesus Christ)
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To: EternalVigilance

Excellent post.


15 posted on 03/23/2005 1:56:44 AM PST by Bellflower (A new day is Coming!)
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To: Deo volente; Howlin; MarMema; BykrBayb; supercat; Mr. Silverback; Mrs.Nooseman; Lovergirl; ...

Ping for Justice!!!


16 posted on 03/23/2005 1:59:57 AM PST by Robert Drobot (Da mihi virtutem contra hostes tuos.)
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We need to see some arrests here. Cuff the killers Governor Bush.

http://www.nationalreview.com/mccarthy/mccarthy200503201334.asp


17 posted on 03/23/2005 2:19:36 AM PST by spycatcher
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To: EternalVigilance

Please, its-probably all over the FR but as I just awoke and now must quickly get ready to vote, What was the breakdown of the vote like? Was the 2-1 decision the 2 dems? Please, someone answer.


18 posted on 03/23/2005 2:23:40 AM PST by freecopper01 (" The amount of people who are making fun of a blueprint for genocide is an alarming thing.")
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To: EternalVigilance

Have e-maile dGovernor Bush and asked if he could seize Terri -that she might live while the godless and errant
Courts and mere politicians are posturing for the people
like two schoolyard combatants. The Judiciary by deliberate design was to be the weakest branch of our government for it has been given no power to enforce its will ,but must rely upon the Executive and Legislative. The whole purpose of our government according to the Declaration is to secure
the God given Right to Life. When any court violates the
clear language of the Constitution a fraud is perpetrated
and noone is bound to obey.The court has no constitutional power to mandate life or death except in case of murder.
Last I heard Terri Schiavo has not been convicted of murder.
And ought not be court mandated to die a cruel and unusual
death our Courts would not allow any mass murderer.Today I
asked President Bush to interveneas this is now a Federal issue.


19 posted on 03/23/2005 2:25:29 AM PST by StonyBurk
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To: goldstategop

These state and federal courts are not just courts of law, they are also courts of equity. I have no doubt that the Shiavo case is squeaky clean with regard to Florida law, but there's no way that sentencing a disabled person to death by dehydration can ever be considered equitable. In the face of any doubt an equitable and compassionate society must presume that life is preferred over death.


20 posted on 03/23/2005 2:29:45 AM PST by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Re-elect Rossi in 2005!)
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