Posted on 03/23/2005 12:21:22 AM PST by peyton randolph
How can they look their wives and kids in the eye. "Hey how was your day?...Not bad, I am slowly killing this defenseless woman,by not allowing her to drink or eat and making goon marshalls stripsearch her grief stricken parents,just in case they should try to sneak in some ice cube.Don't want any of that you know?
Well, let's go to Macdonalds ...
Evil is among us.
I imagine these judges faces just like the devil character in the Passion,with maggots coming out of their noses.
I'm just the messanger, I forgive you.
Judge Carnes (one of the pro-death judges) - appointed September 10, 1992
Judge Hull (the other pro-death judge) - appointed October 3, 1997
"The Devil made me go nuts" is the excuse of religious KOOKS.
messanger=messenger
In this case it is a Court system that has gone insane and drives many to insanity with it.
Maybe you can relate to this a little better.......sticks & stones....
True in general, but not universally true. A de novo review calls the factual conclusions of the court below into question.
PrepareToLeave: "The Lord spoke these words to me in a thunderous roar some time back ...I'm just the mess anger, I forgive you."
"Mess anger" is right. Hahahaha EXTREME KOOK ALERT re-issued and doubled.
Read Cruzan. There is a strong sentiment in favor of permitting the patient to exercise his wishes regarding medical treatment, even when those instructions result in death. Two things really bug me about this case. I have reasonable doubts that Greer's factual conclusion, that Terri would choose to starve to death , is correct. And, the use of starvation as a means of death. The starvation angle plays into both the patient's choice regarding medical care (nobody that I know of considers food and water to be medical care, they are basic necessities of life), and the basic ethical/humanity inquiry into using forced starvation as an instrument to cause death.
CRUZAN v. DIRECTOR, MDH, 497 US 261 (1990) <-- Link. US Supreme Court Case.
I'm still curious as to why he didn't subpoena Terri to come before Judge Whittemore. One of the biggest arguments against Greer's ruling is that he never even saw Terri. Why not rectify that problem by calling Terri as a witness?
Does this case free Jack Kevorkian. He was put in jail for killing people who were on video stating their true intentions of wanting to die and had written living wills?. The state is doing the same exact thing except they do not have video of Terri saying I want to die or a living will. He is in jail while Greer and these other Judges are sitting in the sun.
What a crazy world.
Excellent analysis!
Yes, why is this important or relevent?
You'll see thousands of smug, satisfied lawyers and judges in the wake of this decision.
That is the "shifting the burden" trick. It's a powerful one.
The law also force feeds convicts that are on hunger strikes. In effect forcing medical care on them against their wishes. The judges rationalize each circumstance. You'll be hard pressed to find "the value and dignity of human life" as an underlying principle in the law. It's about process. The law has elevated process above substance.
Liberal logic 101: "Its not my fault if I'm an insane KOOK - it's fault of the court system."
I agree. There should have been a de novo hearing. Terri's lawyer did not do a good job at the appellate court.
The horrible truth is that justice is not always done. Guilty men walk free after trial, are never tried or innocents die and are murdered. Terri's murder happens in this country with other victims as a result of miscarriages of justice. Justice is not perfect on earth. But we keep striving for it.
The legal system, the courts, let this woman down in a breathtaking way.
Thanks, thoughtomator for the info. That's the first thing I looked for online (after wiping the tears from my eyes) this morning when I heard the news. Knew I would find out on FR!
Re Wilson's being a Clinton appointee: I was surprised last night to see David Boies, of all people, give a positive review of Terri's case -- not just on sympathy grounds, but on legal grounds!
Boies, when asked by Greta van Susteren last night what he thought Terri's chances were before the 11th Circuit, said he believed they would re-instate the tube. Guess he was 1/3 right.
I was also surprised to see Jesse Jackson yesterday backing the re-insertion of Terri's feeding tube, also.
And, apparently the majority of the Congressional Black Caucus supported Terri's bill in Congress, too.
So we do have some strange bedfellows here.
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