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1 posted on 03/22/2005 12:09:23 PM PST by Minus_The_Bear
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To: JBlain

Here's site talking about half-gas/water mixture that works.

http://www.betterworld.com/BWZ/9608/product.htm


48 posted on 03/22/2005 12:27:32 PM PST by aimhigh
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I don't see this as being too outlandish. Toluene is currently used by fuel producers to raise octane. It is also used by classic car enthusiasts to run older high compression engines. Just search Goggle for octane booster, it was a surprise to me when I found it.


51 posted on 03/22/2005 12:28:06 PM PST by oldcomputerguy
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From the original article at LubeDev:

"This article about acetone (CH3COCH3) probably draws conclusions that Big Oil and the American Car Manufacturers and others do NOT want you to know. They suffer from unlimited corporate GREED. They want bad mileage. The worse, the better as far as they are concerned."

The article you cited was written by Louis LaPointe, who also made these claims at LubeDev. LubeDev is a commercial enterprise selling various lubrication testers. This is a bunch of hogwash and an attempt at commercial endorsement. Please don't post this junk.
59 posted on 03/22/2005 12:33:28 PM PST by billybudd
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Getting 35% better mileage from a fuel that costs $6/gallon (200% more) isn't exactly a win.


66 posted on 03/22/2005 12:37:18 PM PST by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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carwonk ping.


75 posted on 03/22/2005 12:43:32 PM PST by biblewonk (Neither was the man created for woman but the woman for the man.)
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This just in !

Driving downhill increases gas mileage by 50% to 75%

90 posted on 03/22/2005 12:55:40 PM PST by builder (I don't want a piece of someone else's pie)
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Shhhhhhhh.....Price of Acetone may increase to $55 a gallon.


92 posted on 03/22/2005 12:56:23 PM PST by add925 (The Left = Xenophobes in Denial)
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Figure 1: Percentage MILEAGE GAIN when a tiny amount of acetone is added to fuel. The curves A B C show the effect on three different cars using different gasolines. Some engines respond better than others to acetone. The D curve is for diesel fuel. Too much acetone will decrease mileage slightly due to adding too much octane to the fuel. Too much also upsets the mixture ratio because acetone (like alcohol) is a light molecule.

Missing data from the graph at the start of the article.

100 posted on 03/22/2005 1:03:29 PM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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Didn't Kitty Dukakis used to drink Acetone?


108 posted on 03/22/2005 1:18:57 PM PST by Solamente
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Acetone is used in acetylene tanks to facilitate the burning of the acetylene gas. What you commonly see in the gas cutting torch, brazing welding outfits in conjunction with an oxygen tank.

I have driven LP (Propane) and Natural Gas vehicles. You lose a tad bit of performance, but the engines run longer between tune-ups and oil changes and last much longer. Plus, you get a little better fuel mileage as I recall.

111 posted on 03/22/2005 1:27:09 PM PST by Ghengis (Alexander was a wuss!)
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Aaaaaaah, acetone....


115 posted on 03/22/2005 1:38:01 PM PST by traumer
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"That excess fuel was formerly wasted past the rings or sent out the tailpipe but when mixed with acetone it gets burned. "

Were this true it would show up in emissions tests as unburned hydrocarbons.

It doesn't.


119 posted on 03/22/2005 1:54:37 PM PST by jimt
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When I add 15% more Shell regular to each gallon of Chevron regular, I get 15% more miles.


120 posted on 03/22/2005 2:07:43 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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Ok A mod over at timebomb tried this on a ranger pickup an increased mpg 13 percent on his first trip, anyone else try it yet?


134 posted on 03/22/2005 5:50:45 PM PST by epaul (I have been known to carry three bottles of beer at a time, saves a trip to the fridge.)
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I prefer booze in my gas to acetone. That way I can still drink it if I need to.


136 posted on 03/22/2005 6:13:29 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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I tried it over the weekend.
I drive from Ashland, MO to Stockton, MO every weekend. This trip is 135 miles one way and is mostly highway miles, but I do some back-roads driving too after I get to my destination. Typically I will get 16.5 to 16.7 mpg on a tank of gas for this trip.

1996 Ford Explorer 5.0L V8 with 170,000 miles on it
I poured 6 oz. (180 ml) acetone into the filled 21 gallon gas tank
I made sure all the tires had 32 - 35 psi
I used Casey's General Store gasoline w/ 10% ethanol (I probably should have used the gas w/out eth. - but I'll try that next time).

Results: 369 miles using 18.46 gal = 19.99 mpg

Now I am trying this on my 1993 Dodge Spirit for this week

148 posted on 03/28/2005 6:21:11 AM PST by rface ("...the most schizoid freeper I've ever seen" - Ashland, Missouri)
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