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Shooting Rampage by Student Leaves 10 Dead on Reservation
NY Times ^ | March 22, 2005 | JODI WILGOREN

Posted on 03/21/2005 8:10:27 PM PST by neverdem

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1 posted on 03/21/2005 8:10:28 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

"Usually this happens at...white schools..."

Holy crap! Imagine if...white was replaced with...ANYTHING else!


2 posted on 03/21/2005 8:14:12 PM PST by Scarchin (Lone conservative teacher)
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To: neverdem

What a tragedy!

Prayers going up for all those involved.


3 posted on 03/21/2005 8:15:44 PM PST by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: neverdem

He injured twelve people in a burst with a pistol?

Why didn't people charge him, or something else? I never get that.


4 posted on 03/21/2005 8:16:38 PM PST by furquhart (Peace? But there is no peace!)
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To: neverdem
And it's already against the law there--let's pass another law and make it MORE illegal for him to steal a gun and kill people. /sarc.

Subdivision 2. Penalty. Any Indian, other than a law enforcement officer who has authority to make arrests, who carries, holds or possesses a handgun in a motor vehicle, snowmobile or boat, or on or about his clothes or person, or otherwise in his possession or control in a public place without first having obtained a permit to carry the handgun from the Red Lake Law Enforcement Program is guilty of a gross misdemeanor, and the handgun involved may be confiscated.

Subdivision 4. Grounds for Denial of Permit. A permit to carry a handgun shall not be granted to the applicant if applicant: a) Is under the age of 18 years.

5 posted on 03/21/2005 8:19:26 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (The South will rise again? Hell, we ever get states' rights firmly back in place, the CSA has risen!)
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To: neverdem
What a terrible tragedy. Prayers go out for all those involved.

That said, this will no doubt be used by the anti-gun nuts to further their agenda. With this one and the recent one in WI, this will certainly give them more supporters.

6 posted on 03/21/2005 8:33:55 PM PST by NRA2BFree (Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge ..)
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To: neverdem

"A teacher pulled the kids down on the ground, under the benches,"

This hide like a bunny thing isn't working. Run away if you can. If the shooter is blocking the exit, better to all run at him and over power him.


7 posted on 03/21/2005 8:35:47 PM PST by RicocheT
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To: furquhart

Why didn't people charge him, or something else? I never get that.

At the Wind River Indian Reservation in my state law enforcement remains the exclusive domain of the tribes, to handle as they see fit. IRC, treaties bar federal troops from even setting foot on the reservation. Several years ago a man shot up his entire family. One of his wounded relatives phoned the tribal police, who in turn waited at the perimeter while everyone to bled to death. The man finally committed suicide. American Indians look at death as part of life.

Today is a good day to die for all the things of my life are present. - Crazy Horse

8 posted on 03/21/2005 8:37:54 PM PST by Milhous
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What's sad is the social problems faced by native communities dwarf anything found in any white community across America. Clash of cultures and the natives are the big losers. Most goes back to alcohol and how it affects every aspect of life for every family.

Wife and I taught in a village school and the child abuse, alcohol/drug abuse, and social dysfunction was pervasive; half the younger people died before the age of 25.

Probably 75% of village members were alcoholics and yet the remaining 25% practically killed themselves trying to stop the flow of booze into their communities. Seemed like the state liquor board, white lodge/bar owners, and most of the natives themselves wanted the booze to flow.

No joke, every family had lost half of their family to booze. Imagine burying 3 or 4 of your kids.

All the probs go right back to alcohol. The time we spent in native land sure opened our eyes to the scope of the problem. Pretty good people if they could just get a handle on the booze.

9 posted on 03/21/2005 9:17:13 PM PST by Eska
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All the probs go right back to alcohol.

Now that you mention it, IIRC, alcohol played a role in the incident cited in my previous post.

10 posted on 03/21/2005 9:39:50 PM PST by Milhous
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To: neverdem
The shooting was the worst at a school since the one in 1999 at Columbine High School near Littleton, Colo., where 15 people were killed.

and it is hardly on the news at all. Is this because they can't get reporters and cameras to the scene?

11 posted on 03/21/2005 9:44:28 PM PST by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: neverdem

Blame the white man. Everybody else does.


12 posted on 03/21/2005 10:00:38 PM PST by ozzymandus
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Tragic. Prayers for the dead.


13 posted on 03/21/2005 11:01:26 PM PST by Teplukin
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To: neverdem

The school had metal detectors. The guards were unarmed. The presense of metal detectors presumes the possibility of hostile weapons. Having the guards unarmed simply puts the situation at the complete discretion of the hostile.

Two guards. Unarmed. Had they been armed (and trained and competent) he might have taken one, but not both. Instead many are dead and crippled. What the hell are people thinking? Unarmed security guards involved in weapons interdiction is an exercise in bureaucratic asininity, a public experssion of rhetorical nonsense.

Liberals kill.

These things only seem to happen in gun-free zones.


14 posted on 03/22/2005 4:38:24 AM PST by Liberty Ship ("Lord, make me fast and accurate.")
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Well, the guards probably did a fine job of keeping dangerous drugs like Tylenol out of the school.


15 posted on 03/22/2005 4:45:15 AM PST by Fresh Wind
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To: neverdem

I grew up in Minnesota and lived near the Souix reservation...I have nothing but honor and respect for the American Indian...my prayers goes out to all effected by this tragedy....life on the "res" can be pretty difficult if not hopeless...


16 posted on 03/22/2005 5:08:38 AM PST by Kimmers
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To: neverdem

He dressed in black and was a loner. Hellloooooooo!!!


17 posted on 03/22/2005 5:50:14 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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Bellencourt is one of the slimiest people around, always racism, 24 hrs a day...

Not surprised to hear him contribute his typical spew.

19 posted on 03/22/2005 5:54:17 AM PST by coder2
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To: neverdem

I heard this morning that the kid was a whacked-out goth. Nothing to see here, I guess.


20 posted on 03/22/2005 6:01:13 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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