Posted on 03/21/2005 10:53:59 AM PST by tomball
Count me in Doug. Wet sand is all public.
In Sea Island, GA, there are no public beaches . There are public accesses to the beaches for the people who live or rent the cottages inland. The people who use these accesses are mindful of the private properties, but can set up tents and even have dinner parties on the beaches.
It's a matter of respect - both ways.
Reminds me of that windmill problem in Martha's Vinwyard. Never in a liberal's backyard.
Nothing like sunbathing on wet sand.
The liberal lawmakers of Malibu should sponsor a program for the Homeless and the rehabilitated criminals to make use of the public facilities of Malibu. I'm sure all the caring libs who own the beach properties would be happy to share.
The Hollywood elite like to claim that they champion the little guy, but in reality they want the little guy as far away from them as possible.
I suspect they don't buy it because that would prove it. Some of these celebs even dislike or hate having fans. They don't like being recognized. Makes one wonder what they thought being a celebrity would be all about, when they strove to be one.
I live in Santa Monica & have been down on these Malibu beaches. Although, most of the time I was an invited guest...I did once crash a 4th of July party at Robert Redfords home. That was priceless.....and a ton of fun.
"The Hollywood elite like to claim that they champion the little guy, but in reality they want the little guy as far away ...."
very good point.
The ad says, "fresh water flying only", so that wouldn't solve this problem.
This guy's never been to San Francisco.
My thoughts exactly. The old `I have an armed bodyguard, but no guns for you'/jet to the Save the Polar Bears lib-limo syndrome. Absolutely shameless parasites.
(Here's the deal: they can have the beaches. And their `culture'. We'll keep everything in the middle, including the food.)
-"I've seen people defecate on the beaches. They wouldn't tolerate it in the city."-
Sure they do. Liberal cities everywhere give free reign to public bums.
My wife and I lived in the colony for a short time. The only person that we saw using the beach was tom hanks. He was nice. Other neighbors sting etc never used the beach. Brian Keith just sat in a lawn chair in his garage all day, no wonder he shot himself. Most of these people are so self absorbed and they really do not have much of a life so they make gigantic deals out of nothing. Generally pathetically little lives that are based on others for their validity. Er go buying a beach house and trying to make it your own beach. which is property they did not buy because in california you cant.
New Times L.A. Apr 11, 2002Even now, in what might be described as a battle of the haves and the have mores, lawsuits are flying after a remarkable piece of beach-money politics involving a trio of Malibu heavyweights: billionaire philanthropist Eli Broad, billionaire television mogul Haim Saban (Mighty Morphin Power Rangers) and Nancy Daly Riordan, wife of the ex-Los Angeles mayor [Richard Riordan] and failed gubernatorial candidate. In exchange for being allowed to build huge mansions near each other on Carbon Beach that would illegally obstruct ocean views, the three friends overcame the commission’s objections by the most old-fashioned of means. They wrote checks for a combined $1 million to buy and donate a strip of shoreline 80 feet wide for public access -- not near their homes, but at nearby La Costa Beach.
The “gift” would provide the only access point in one of the most inaccessible of Malibu’s residential beach corridors. But La Costa homeowners -- among them actor Ryan O’Neal and record producer Lou Adler -- weren’t keen on having the public hordes invade the empty beachfront just off their balconies. They’ve sued the coastal commission and its sister agency, the state Coastal Conservancy, to prevent the site, known locally as “the cove,” from getting opened to the public. Agreeing with them, a Los Angeles Superior Court judge last July scolded Broad, Daly Riordan and Saban for maneuvering to transfer a “nuisance” to their neighbors down the beach. The commission has appealed the ruling. But regardless of whether the “the cove” is ever opened, Broad, Daly Riordan and Saban can’t lose. At a cost of a million dollars divided by three, they got approval for the houses they wanted, leaving the La Costa folks to duke it out with the state in court.
Uh. No. There are regulations that prevent it.
It also means individuals have the right to own property down to the mean high-tide line. Broadbeach creates problems because it is a continuation of LA County's Zuma Beach. At the first private property line, the entire public beach is narrowed down to the wet sand in the mean high tide zone.
Where Broadbeach gets confusing is that certain homeowners have allowed public easements up past the wet sand onto their private property ie dry sand. That's what creates the checker board look.
However, regardless of one's wealth or political affiliation, the bottom line is that this is a private property issue.
You, alas, were done in by the embarrassment of having sh*t that stinks...
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