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DRUDGE: White House Studies $4 Gallon 'Nightmare' Scenario
Drudge Report ^ | Sun Mar 20 2005 | Matt Drudge

Posted on 03/20/2005 5:09:02 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

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To: biblewonk
Me either. They buy SUV's cause everyone has one and gas is temporarily low. Then the country has to engineer 80 percent of it's foreign and domestic policy around maintaining everyones right to drive their show ponies.

LOL.

How dare you! Everyone knows SUVs are popular because they're safe! It's for the chilllllllldren!!!!! ;O)

161 posted on 03/21/2005 9:00:29 AM PST by newgeezer (A conservative who conserves -- a REAL capitalist!)
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To: Trazodone

"I'm not talking about price caps. I'm talking about increasing the sources and/or declaring war on nations that are holding us hostage now."

Declaring war on any one of the OPEC states (including Iran) is tantamount to economic suicide right now.


162 posted on 03/21/2005 9:02:59 AM PST by quantfive
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To: peyton randolph

Maybe if we burned coal, untapped the closed wells, got going on offshore and Alaska drilling and forced manufacturers of SUVs to install more efficient engines oh and put in more public transportation, we wouldn't be over the barrel for the arabs.


163 posted on 03/21/2005 9:18:40 AM PST by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: Edmund Burke

Because the pipe lines go boom every single day.


164 posted on 03/21/2005 9:19:32 AM PST by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: A Ruckus of Dogs

"no they won't. I work in the leasing business and the hybrid manufacturers can't keep them in the factory. SUV sales are going down. People see the writing on the wall."

Yep, I drive about 40 miles a day to and from work. That means it costs me roughly $4.00 each day x 5 = $20.00 per week. Although I like my mid-size, I would consider going hybrid, with a smaller car. Saving $500 a year pays the extra premium of the hybrid over the life of the loan and then it is all hard savings to my bank account afterwars.


165 posted on 03/21/2005 9:22:57 AM PST by quantfive
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To: newgeezer

"Yes, I have little or no sympathy for those who choose to work many miles from home and then b*tch about the cost of getting there. They're probably the same type who build their dream home downwind from a pig farm and then hire a lawyer to do something about the stench."

Well, I would have lived in the town and state I wanted to if the average home pricing hadn't spiked up to $275k for a three bedroom. I know I am not the only one who has to drive extra miles to have a job that pays the mortgage.


166 posted on 03/21/2005 9:26:07 AM PST by quantfive
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To: k2blader

Too late. $3 in SF, CA.


167 posted on 03/21/2005 9:28:40 AM PST by RinaseaofDs (The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.)
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To: quantfive
Well, I would have lived in the town and state I wanted to if the average home pricing hadn't spiked up to $275k for a three bedroom. I know I am not the only one who has to drive extra miles to have a job that pays the mortgage.

But, you're not complaining about the price of your chosen commute, are you? Because, if you are -- and that was the premise of my post which you quoted -- there are not only other homes, but also other jobs.

168 posted on 03/21/2005 9:32:10 AM PST by newgeezer (A conservative who conserves -- a REAL capitalist!)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
We also over played our hand with Russia. One of the reasons that Khodorkovsky got jailed (it was for taxes but the reason he got served up with the bill finally) is that he planned on selling several key oil fields to Exxon and Shell. He was told that the fields would belong only to Russian companies. He ignored it and kept on, aka he got served. The oil companies ran to Bush and got Bush to push on Putin. Putin responded by ending the Murmansk port upgrade which was going to send a lot of oil our way.

Now that oil is heading to Japan, S.Korea and China. So we are further stuck with the arabs and the oil from Canada is heading to China too.

169 posted on 03/21/2005 9:37:56 AM PST by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: Bostton1

Exactly, with natural gas so expensive to run turbines, why not corn whisky? It burns and it's renewable and dirt cheap.


170 posted on 03/21/2005 9:38:58 AM PST by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: newgeezer

"But, you're not complaining about the price of your chosen commute, are you? Because, if you are -- and that was the premise of my post which you quoted -- there are not only other homes, but also other jobs."

Actually, my biggest complaint is not spending an extra $7 more on gas a week then I use to, it's heating oil. I suppose all of us in the Northeast can all just simply move to Florida? Their are always solutions, but some of them don't mean an improvement in the quality of life equation.


171 posted on 03/21/2005 9:41:04 AM PST by quantfive
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To: marty60
Anyone that doesn't KNOW that oil is being used as a weapon against us

If it is, we have handed the weapon to them. Whoever they are.

172 posted on 03/21/2005 9:41:11 AM PST by RightWhale (Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
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To: tomkat

LOL


173 posted on 03/21/2005 9:43:11 AM PST by verity (The Liberal Media and the ACLU are America's Enemies)
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To: marty60
We should have stop listening to the idiot envirowackos YEARS ago.
174 posted on 03/21/2005 9:43:49 AM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: quantfive

My next car is going to be a hybrid. My current car, a small size, is 12 years old but I'm keeping it until the wheels fall off. Some states, (TN is one I think) aren't even charging sales tax on hybrids just to encourage folks to buy them.


175 posted on 03/21/2005 9:47:48 AM PST by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: jb6
and forced manufacturers of SUVs to install more efficient engines

Or don't buy SUVs until they do. That's the best way to send the message.

176 posted on 03/21/2005 9:49:39 AM PST by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: A Ruckus of Dogs

I remember watching an interview with a few owners whining about the cost of filling them up all the time. Tough.


177 posted on 03/21/2005 9:50:40 AM PST by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: Husker24
I say to the envirowackos, we will build the refinerys while the pseudo impact study is underway .
178 posted on 03/21/2005 9:51:22 AM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: sagebrush58; TexasCowboy
All true, and all good ideas. But what we are all missing is the element of PRICE GOUGING on the part of the oil industry in the US. Eliminating the relatively small (by world standards) taxes on gasoline will do no good, because the oil companies will simply raise prices to make up for them. What we need now are PRICE CAPS, to stop the price of gasoline from rising any further. Since there are far more gas stations now than 30 years ago, and nearly all are self-service, the possibility of gas lines and shortages arising from such caps is remote.

WRONG. A barrel of oil is 56 bucks today. It has 42 gallons in it. This is not 42 gallons gasoline. Assuming you get 42 gallons (You will actually get around 32 and the rest will be fuel oils and asphalts) the base cost per gallon of the refined product is $1.33 cents. to this add transportation, refining, distribution, costs of exploration, taxes and profit, the true cost is around 2 bucks or more depending on which state and their taxes. The oil companies are making good profits. The oil companies are not price gouging the public.

179 posted on 03/21/2005 9:55:21 AM PST by cpdiii (Oil Field Trash, Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, (OIL FIELD TRASH was fun))
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To: anyone

Bush isn't going to do anything until all of his oil industry millionaire buddies are billionaire buddies.

He and the Republican house and senate have sat on this problem for 5 years now. I remember prior to his first election, chatter here on FR was that the first thing he would do is open up ANWR for drilling. I been holding my breath ever since. I'm quite blue now.

The only thing I hope for nowadays is that he and his cronies go too far and cause a major economic collapse. Then maybe we'll do what is long overdue, and that is tar and feather the bastards and start this experiment in self government (isn't that a freekin joke?) over again.


180 posted on 03/21/2005 9:55:36 AM PST by Critter (America, home of the whipped.)
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