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House Calling Emergency Session to Vote on Schiavo Legislation; Senate Passes Bill First
AP ^ | 3/20/05 | Jim Abrams

Posted on 03/20/2005 2:52:24 PM PST by Jean S

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To: PFKEY
I would say that sticking a feeding tube into someone stomach is modern technology.

Not terribly modern. No more modern than aspirin.

Besides, Michael forbids even efforts to feed Terri by mouth. Even if there's a 95% certainty that she would be unable to receive food or water orally, is there any legitimate reason to deny that 5% chance if the only other alternative would be certain death?

241 posted on 03/20/2005 9:31:16 PM PST by supercat ("Though her life has been sold for corrupt men's gold, she refuses to give up the ghost.")
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To: PFKEY
this is the third time in Terri's case that a judge has exercised such authority and with impunity I might add.

No, the previous orders allowed the guardian to starve her to death. This court order to starve a U.S. citizen to death was given by the judge, himself ACTING AS TERRI'S PROXY.

Cordially,

242 posted on 03/20/2005 9:34:10 PM PST by Diamond
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To: Howlin
This is going to destroy the GOP.

I looked out the window and the sky did not appear to be falling.

Actually I'd be willing to bet most people aren't really aware of this case.

243 posted on 03/20/2005 9:35:47 PM PST by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: Diamond
No, the previous orders allowed the guardian to starve her to death. This court order to starve a U.S. citizen to death was given by the judge, himself ACTING AS TERRI'S PROXY.

I don't understand the distinction you are making.

A court order had to be given in order to have her feeding tube removed in every case correct?

Who gives a court order but a judge?

Technically speaking the one removing the feeding tube is a doctor or the medical staff at hospice not her gaurdian or a judge.

Sorry I'm not understanding you.

244 posted on 03/20/2005 9:38:09 PM PST by PFKEY
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To: PFKEY
A court order had to be given in order to have her feeding tube removed in every case correct?

The first two times, Greer allowed Michael to order the tube removed. The last time, Greer decreed that the tube must be removed even if by some chance Michael decided he no longer wanted to do so.

245 posted on 03/20/2005 9:49:15 PM PST by supercat ("Though her life has been sold for corrupt men's gold, she refuses to give up the ghost.")
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To: supercat
The first two times, Greer allowed Michael to order the tube removed. The last time, Greer decreed that the tube must be removed even if by some chance Michael decided he no longer wanted to do so.

First time I heard of that so if MS has a change of heart in the next few days it wont matter?

246 posted on 03/20/2005 9:57:29 PM PST by PFKEY
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To: kittymyrib

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247 posted on 03/20/2005 10:07:07 PM PST by cubreporter (I trust and admire Rush. He has done more for this country than he will ever know. God bless him.)
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To: JeanS

All that's left is to hold Judge Greer in contempt of congress. Without his obstinance, this bill would not have been necessary.


248 posted on 03/20/2005 10:08:18 PM PST by Tax Government (Boycott and defeat the Legacy Media. Become a monthly contributor to FR.)
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To: PFKEY
First time I heard of that so if MS has a change of heart in the next few days it wont matter?

Right. I think Greer did that so he could try to enforce DCF to starve Terri even if they took her into protective custody.

I do hope Delay can bring a big strong hammer down on Greer. If he does it within the next few days, Greer's contempt of congress won't set too much of a precedent, but the longer Greer remains unpunished the harder it will be to avoid losing Congress' ability to hold judges accountable for their actions.

249 posted on 03/20/2005 10:10:08 PM PST by supercat ("Though her life has been sold for corrupt men's gold, she refuses to give up the ghost.")
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To: middie

The best resolution would have been for Jeb Bush to take command of the Terri and respectfully tell Greer that he had overstepped his authority. Jeb does not have the stomach for that so Terri's husband and the culture of death will get their way.


250 posted on 03/20/2005 10:11:03 PM PST by Honestfreedom
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To: Honestfreedom

Oh stop for heaven's sakes!!!!!!!!! Read the article on Newsmax for cryin' out loud. Stop blaming Jeb Bush.


251 posted on 03/20/2005 10:14:06 PM PST by cubreporter (I trust and admire Rush. He has done more for this country than he will ever know. God bless him.)
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To: PFKEY
Previously it was Michael Shiavo acting as Terri's guardian who, with the court's permission, ordered the feeding stopped. This time it was the court itself tht directly issued the starvation order.

It may seem like a distinction without a difference, especially from Terri's point of view, but think about it. It was not one individual doing it, at his discretion with a court's permission, as bad as that is; it was the State of Florida doing it, and I would like to know what the source of authority is that allows a state judge to order the starvation of a U.S. citizen.

Cordially,

252 posted on 03/20/2005 10:16:29 PM PST by Diamond
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To: Diamond
It may seem like a distinction without a difference

No, I would say this is a huge difference.

Did the judge order this as a result of Terri's Law being declared unconstitutional?

Kinda just picking up where they last left off?

253 posted on 03/20/2005 10:23:07 PM PST by PFKEY
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To: LegalEagle61
how it was all eaten up between MS and the lawyers

It would be a constitutional crisis if the lawyers were found to have violated a fiduciary responsibility and had to cough all the funds back up - and were disbarred on top of it all.

254 posted on 03/21/2005 1:57:04 AM PST by AndyJackson
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