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America’s Has-Been Economy
Chronicles ^ | Friday, March 18, 2005 | Paul Craig Roberts

Posted on 03/20/2005 8:11:01 AM PST by A. Pole

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To: hedgetrimmer

Slaving (both the trade and employment aspects) deserves the death penalty.


361 posted on 03/23/2005 7:18:49 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: phelanw

RE: If you look at a 50 year graph of home equity, you see that Americans had a considerable amount of it until about 1996, when the graph line on removal of equity from homes heads up like a NASA launch.

I get no fewer than 15 direct mailers touting 40 year refis in junk mail every week. Of course my skimpy little mortgage will be paid in about 10 years, so of course I tear them up. I don't know whether I should laugh at the idiots who go for these refis, or cry about what's gonna happen when the SHTF!


362 posted on 03/23/2005 7:23:17 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: RFT1

RE: There has to be a change in the very corporate culture of US companies,

Not exactly, the corporations are actually victims themselves. The real issue is the investment community. Most of them do not understand the value propositions of the companies they invest in, and do not comprehend the fundamentals. Truth be known, the opening up of stock trading to the masses may not have been such a great thing, in retrospect. Maybe it really ought to be open only to those who can invest large sums.


363 posted on 03/23/2005 7:26:52 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: GOP_1900AD

There are quite a few folks out there that think its ok to do business with slave states I guess. It is one way to lower costs, but if the economic model based on slavery keeps making money for some, you will see slavery spread worldwide.


364 posted on 03/23/2005 7:26:55 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: Paul Ross

Grima Wormtongue was a freetrader and a traitor!


365 posted on 03/23/2005 7:27:50 PM PST by A. Pole (Working three jobs - uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic, oooh yeah, yeah, hehe.)
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To: mighty_abandon

RE: The problem with america right now is the hyper-consumerism that we all take part in.

Interestingly, I don't really take part in it. I am a cash / virtual cash guy, the only debt is a small home mortgage. Perhaps related, I am also considered "wealthy" by the government. Is part of the key to my wealth, the fact that I have never really fallen for the lure of consumer advertizing, and have never carried credit card debt? Are people who never gain wealth, those who never gain control of their own cash flow and never learn to live within their means? Oh man, now I'm sounding like "Rich Dad Poor Dad" here, but there is much truth in that book.


366 posted on 03/23/2005 7:31:58 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: A. Pole

I dont think I agree with this article at all...

the Chicken Little type screaming about the economy is quite a wonder on here sometimes....


367 posted on 03/23/2005 7:40:45 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Silly Hippies, Bush Won!!!!)
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To: hedgetrimmer

It's what Che Guevara dreamed of.


368 posted on 03/23/2005 7:44:10 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: CarrotAndStick

Intel moved my former roommate's entire department to Russia. Another friend of mine worked for Sybis in Cali. Sybis gutted it's entire IT department (everything) and moved it to India. Oracle has done similiarly but on a smaller scale. IBM, Nortel, etc. The only thing that ever came back was one call center from Dell.


369 posted on 03/24/2005 2:44:11 PM PST by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: aspiring.hillbilly

Not true, I saw Made in America wrapping paper in Walmart.


370 posted on 03/24/2005 2:44:45 PM PST by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: billybudd
I recommend something flexible and useful, like English.

Is that for all those English as a second language cash drains in our schools for the illegal mexicans?

371 posted on 03/24/2005 2:45:38 PM PST by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: jb6
How encouraging, we can sell American wrapping paper to cover the chinese goods. I detect sarcasm here....LOL
372 posted on 03/25/2005 10:11:03 AM PST by aspiring.hillbilly
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To: aspiring.hillbilly
As we are sending our mfg overseas so are other nations sending theirs to us. BMW, Honda, Nissan, Toyota are a few that immediately come to mind. I believe that Mercedes either is in the process of or else already has begun building cars here.
373 posted on 03/25/2005 10:17:52 AM PST by JoeV1
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To: Dave S
"Yes because overseas they don't have to pay AFL-CIO level wages and benefits." This is a self correcting phenomenon as are all greed based union victories. GM is losing money in a big way and their debt has been downgraded to something on the order of BBB-, junk status. They will shortly "force" the unions to except drastic revisions in the retirement packages both being currently paid and pledged to those yet to retire. The alternative will be GM will begin defaulting on it's obligations, including these health care and retirement benefits.
374 posted on 03/25/2005 10:22:08 AM PST by JoeV1
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To: A. Pole
What type of knowledge? What field would you recommend to the students?

Another thought, with the aging of the workforce and lack of young people to keep up with the elderly.

Robotics, robotics programming.

375 posted on 03/26/2005 11:45:34 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Nations do not survive by setting examples for others. Nations survive by making examples of others)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Japanese Unemployment rate: 5.3% (2003)

The current Japanese unemployment rate is 4.7%.

However, I would caution against using that as a long-term indicator; like the U.S. number, it is more indicative of the short-term hiring situation rather than useful for long-term numbers. Both the U.S. government and the Japanese government have very long explanations about how they calculate these numbers.

I personally prefer participation rates; I like both the normal definition, and as well I like to use the overall population in light of the demographic situation we are seeing develop.

376 posted on 03/29/2005 1:19:42 AM PST by snowsislander (Isa41:17-When the poor and needy seek water,and there is none,and their tongue faileth for thirst...)
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To: snowsislander
Thanks. What do you think of A Pole's idea that the US needs to be more like Japan as far as more government planning/control of the economy?

What do you think of my idea that Japan's planning hasn't worked out so well over the last 15 years?

377 posted on 03/29/2005 7:16:31 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Maybe it's not the Alinsky Method. Maybe you appear ridiculous because you are ridiculous!!!)
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