5-Year-Old Arrested For Candy Outburst At School

ClickonDetroit ^ | March 18, 2005

[harpo11]

I just remembered the State of Florida printed Rush Limbaugh's private medical records and medications in the local newspaper, or was it a web site?

You are right, there is too many to keep track of. Thanks for adding to the list.

[harpo11]

I don't know if they ever did find the child. Thanks for adding to the list of "What the Heck is Going on in Florida?"

[Happygal]

I'm stating a fact. A spank on the bottom would have solved the tantrum issue.

The matter of school's dicipline systems being screwed up, however, is another matter.

[Dianna]

The teacher was wrong to give candy to the the child for sure. Candy falls right behind cigarettes and drugs on my list of what I don't want a teacher to give my child.

Make sure any teacher your child has knows this up front. Candy is fairly common in schools these days. Mostly it is given as behavior rewards. Occasionally, it is used to make a lesson more interesting. For example, it seems fairly common for 1st grade teachers to use small bags of M&M's or skittles for the children to sort and graph the colors. I've seen bar graphs made with empty candy bar wrappers after Halloween.

Do you object to all candy or just candy as a bribe?

[lotusblos]

" Make sure any teacher your child has knows this up front. Candy is fairly common in schools these days. Mostly it is given as behavior rewards. Occasionally, it is used to make a lesson more interesting. For example, it seems fairly common for 1st grade teachers to use small bags of M&M's or skittles for the children to sort and graph the colors. I've seen bar graphs made with empty candy bar wrappers after Halloween.

Do you object to all candy or just candy as a bribe?"

I object to candy as a bribe and I object to using treats to raise money. When I went to high school there were two or three fat kids in my entire school (450+ in the graduating class), at my daughter's high school I would estimate that less than 25% of the kids are not fat. Naturally, the school supplies over priced junk food for the kids in multiple vending machines. But, using candy as a motivator is typical of todays public school system. Take the easy path, show movies instead of teach, and continue to graduate students who need remedial reading and math classes before they can go on to college.

[humblegunner]

"B**ch set my baby up...."

Someone set up baby the bomb.

[cmsgop]

[Charles H. (The_r0nin)]

In some instance you may have to handle them as you would a wrigling [sic] frenzied cat. Just get a hold of them and the remove them from the area.

And now mommy owns you, and everything that you have worked hard all your life to earn. What part of "teachers are forbidden from even touching students" do you not understand? Despite what you would "like" to see happen in a "sane" world, we live in the very insane (and grotesquely litigious) world of the here and now. So, under the present circumstances, what would you have the adult do in this situation? And are you willing to pledge your personal wealth and belongings as collateral for the teacher who follows your advice?

[ShadowDancer]

It's a good thing I don't have any boys or I would swear he was mine.

[BJungNan]

In some instance you may have to handle them as you would a wriggling [sic] frenzied cat. Just get a hold of them and the remove them from the area.

First, "wriggling" is the word I intended. Nothing wrong with it as I used it. Happy to have you suggest another word though.

OK, that side point aside let's wriggle into the rest of your reply.

And now mommy owns you, and everything that you have worked hard all your life to earn. What part of "teachers are forbidden from even touching students" do you not understand?

If you can't touch the student, remove all the other kids from the classroom and leave the kid in their alone. That will have the same effect as removing her.

Despite what you would "like" (what are the scare quotes about?) to see happen in a "sane" world, we live in the very insane (and grotesquely litigious) world of the here and now. So, under the present circumstances, what would you have the adult do in this situation? And are you willing to pledge your personal wealth and belongings as collateral for the teacher who follows your advice?

Yep, I would do that. I'm sure if they did it my way the problem would be resolved. In my job I have to deal with the seemingly impossible and contradictory all the time. Solving what no one on the team can solve is exactly my job description.

I'm curious, is solving a wiggling 5-year-old in your (a teachers) job description? If not, they why do someone else's job?

[BJungNan]

Don't you just hate people that can't do "the finger" right. Stupid kid.

[bad company]

And don't forget, "misplacing" a child in foster care. Did they EVER find that kid, by the way?

No, they never found her but the foster mother was just convicted of killing her.

[sweetliberty]

D*mn. I didn't know that. Thanks.

[Ancesthntr]

I could see my 3 1/2 year old doing something similar, if she was in a particularly bad mood (i.e. from a lack of sleep, or sick, or whatever). In fact, she's hit other kids and teachers, and thrown a couple of things.

Make no mistake, I consider that type of behavior to be UNACCEPTABLE from my 3 1/2 year old, let alone a kid 1 1/2 - 2 1/2 years older than that. My wife and I have punished her for that in various ways, and the frequency has dropped considerably (which is probably due at least as much to the normal maturation process as to our punishments). BUT...

NO FREAKING WAY will I EVER tolerate any school official having my kid arrested and bound for nonsense like this. The kid in this article was a brat, no doubt, and did a bunch wrong - but she was 5 YEARS OLD. How about calling the parents and having them deal with it? How about suspending her for a week or two? This utter lack of judgment and concern about the effect of such treatment on a small child deserves a lawsuit (or a good beating for the principal from Dad, but that's probably not legal). I say that as someone who is NOT in favor of any kind of abuse of the legal system.

[Dan from Michigan]

Arresting 5 year olds?

No wonder cops aren't respected anymore.

[cspackler]

My daughter is 5, and yes, at times she does throw tantrums.

Would she ever physically go after a teacher, much less a Police Officer? Not a chance in hell...

I agree that calling the Police was extreme. I do realize that the school personnel's hands are tied. My reaction would have been to remove the child from the class, (ever heard of being sent to the office?) then call the parents to come get them.

Trust me, if this had been my daughter and I was called, she would have much rather seen the police show up than me.

[No Blue States]

Please officers! Protect us from the formidable 5 year old tantrum throwers!

While at the same time pedophiles are kidnapping our daughters from their bedroom windows and slaughtering them.

Arresting and cuffing a 5 yo is absurd, under ANY circumstances imo.

We as a country have got to get our priorities straight.

PS: Bring back the school paddle and use it when needed. If a parent doesnt sign a form allowing it their kids dont go. I bet the cops were embarrassed to be put in this ridiculous position.

[cspackler]

Most kids will try the physical side of things when they are learning what behavior is acceptable or not. The difference is, the FIRST time my daughter tried it, I didn't talk to her, I didn't try to "explain" to her why it was wrong... I put the hammer down on her and made it clear beyond a doubt that it was not going to be tolerated. She quickly understood that we are not equals in the house, and that her mother and I are in charge.

It never happened again. Oh, she still has the normal tantrums of a 5 year old, and those things we do "talk about" and discuss. But hit a teacher or a Police Officer? Never.

[TChris]

However, a quick spank on the bottom might have solved the 'tantrum' issue.

Agreed. I still remember when I was in elementary school, my parents would tell my teacher every year, in my presence, that he/she had their permission to use corporal punishment on me if I got out of control. That permission worked wonders in helping me control myself. :-)