Posted on 03/18/2005 4:32:07 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
Perhaps, but then where was the heat of defense for terri existant today? I fully acknowledge people have been fighting for her life for years. Good people. But I'll step up to the plate and admit I've done more in the past 24 hours than I have since this first came to my attention on Glen Beck's show awhile back. A mistake on my part, a mistake on their part. But we're all fighting (save a few) now. Perhaps not the ideal, but better than when she's already in her grave.
No, torie, GREER tossed out contradictory expert testimony and disregarded the testimony of Terris supporters from day one.
He is on a crusade to kill her; why is anyones guess. Mine is that Soros has bought him off.
But damn the law if it means innocent people are being tormented to death. This must stop or else the law is a whore and we are fools to respect it.
I agree with you. I can't understand why if they are so intent on killing her that can't just give her a lethal injection. The funny thing is the same doctors who wanted my mother to remove my brother's feeding tube and kill him stopped an operation they were doing on him to relieve tension in his legs because his blood pressure dropped and they were afraid he might die. Go figure.
That is what grownups do.
So9
Simple. Written documents or other tangible forms of declaration (e.g. videotaped statements) are required for a reason. In contexts where written documents are required, a claim that a document existed is not an acceptible substitute.
I agree that Greer's finding of fact was erroneous. I would have reversed the bastard if I had been in the right place at the right time, with the right persuasive power over my colleagues on the right higher court. Make no mistake about that.
What would you know about that?
Kill innocent people based on a preponderance of evidence. You guys always forget the other side of the coin. Terri's family and friends testified that she was a devout Catholic. Devout Catholics do not remove food and water from human beings who aren't ravaged by a debilitating disease causing untold suffering.
At the time she made the remarks she was a kid. When I was that age I told my pals to shoot me if I ever reached 50. Well, I've reached 50 and if my pals come looking for me I'll be shooting back.
Remarks made while watching an idiotic TV show can not be used as a living will. It is absurd.
The freaking irony here is almost unbelievable. Kennedy writes for the court waxing poetically on how states choosing to execute 17 year old cold blooded murderers is cruel and unusual while a week later Judge Greer orders a cruel and unusual death for Terri Schiavo, a woman guilty of nothing.
First, the murderer must somehow arrange for his/her victim to arrive at the point of seemingly irreversible brain damage.Second, the murderer must tell the courts, that the victim told the murderer, that the victim "would not want to live that way."
By order of the court, the murderer's work shall be completed.
Just like that, when the "quality of life" is ill-defined by the statutes, leaving lawyers and judges to poke and pry.
Probably, quite a lot of partial birth abortions and such partial life abortions are committed every month in The Death State (new license plate logo).
How is Greer ignoring the law? He's been backed up by state appeals courts, the Florida Supreme Court, Federal Appeals Courts, and the US Supreme Court. It seems to me that one of these august bodies would have discovered a violation of the law on Greer's part, had there been one.
Moore, OTOH, was told to remove his monument by a Federal Judge, by a Federal Appeals Court, and by the US Supreme Court. When he didn't, he was removed by his fellow Alabama Supreme Court Justices.
Should we just ignore the judiciary?
No, I will be here for a long time. I like heat. I find it annealing. Just keep dishing it out.
The point is... prepared to get starved. A death clan.
I hasten to add, that the license plate logo is exclusively reserved for use by people in Florida, with "law degrees."
You will be scorched to a crisp sooner or later
Precisely my point; DeLay is grand standing to get some national attention, riding on an unfortunate, gut wrenching issue, somehow made it mainstream, since this is a non issue for hospice homes(sadly a lot of this happens without national coverage).
Rule of law should be observed no matter what (respect and follow the Constitution, not emotions), further more, usurping State rights for political gain, is a no, no whether Democrat or Republican.
DeLay's move was a very cheap, cheap shot.
Using/Warning with the Congress's power on a whim, to further his personal view on issues on hand, bypassing the Separations of Powers, State Rights is frightening.
Welcome to the DeLay's Banana Republic of USA.
BTW I am a card carring Republican!
You and I are firends. I know where you stand on the issue. I know it is a much more emotional issue for me. You treat it more logically and that logic has led you to giving Terri the benefit of the doubt because for the state to kill innocent folks by starvation is a bridge too far that should never be crossed.
But doesnt FL law also make it illegal to deny a person food if they can take food?
And doesnt FL law also say that before these tubes can be removed that a physician has to again affirm that the patient is in a vegetative state?
And doesnt FL law state that Greer should have admited the contradictory expert testimony that he was ruled to be wrong for excluding?
I am no lawyer but these are issues raised before that I ahve not seen answered.
But screw the law in this case; an innocent woman cannot be left to starve to deth merely because some insane judge orders it.
Your standing your ground JFK_Lib.
I'm not sure I'd rate her as high as a Mistress. More like a concubine. Actually, I did think Mistress but my husband said concubine is closer to the mark...
I see the nine are talking to you tonight. They are nice fellows.
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