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CA: The talk in Los Angeles is the talk of getting out (33% want to leave)
Daily Breeze ^ | 3/17/2005 | Josh Grossberg

Posted on 03/17/2005 3:59:11 PM PST by BurbankKarl

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To: B-Chan; iluvdubya

Great post.


241 posted on 03/18/2005 6:13:47 AM PST by truthkeeper (Yeah, I have a 1998 signup date. So?)
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To: L,TOWM
I take it you bought your home? ...

Bought it and its free and clear. 26 Grand then 3/4 million now. Prop 13 tax rate. Ride a motorcycle to beat the traffic.

You got yours so everyone else ("losers" in your eyes) can F off?

Your words comma man, not mine. Leaving because you're too tender for LA is prudent, LA is not for the weak. Leaving Lalaland doesn't make you a loser, perpetual whining does.

BTW, what is a "non-hacker"?

HACK: Whack at sumtin with a sharp instrument.
HACKER: Someone who hacks
NON-HACKER: Someone who can't hack, often because his instrument isn't sharp enough.

242 posted on 03/18/2005 6:33:48 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: B-Chan

I enjoyed your post and agree with you.


243 posted on 03/18/2005 6:37:12 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: A CA Guy

LA has ONE asset: the weather. It has several liabilities:

Hollywood
Ridiculous Housing Prices
Earthquakes
Illegal Aliens
Crime
Smog
Crowding
Traffic

In light of that, Akron, Ohio looks like a better place to live to me.


244 posted on 03/18/2005 6:40:18 AM PST by RockinRight (Electing Hillary president would be akin to giving a drunken teenage boy keys to the Porsche)
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To: drt1

Yeah...our weather up here (I'm just under you in Ohio) isn't the greatest, but, honestly, from late May thru late Sept. it isn't too bad.

This year has sucked, however-I don't think it's been 50 degrees once this March yet...sigh...


245 posted on 03/18/2005 6:44:45 AM PST by RockinRight (Electing Hillary president would be akin to giving a drunken teenage boy keys to the Porsche)
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To: OldPossum

Texas is looking better and better. I live in Ohio, and I love it but the weather leaves much to be desired. Texas has better weather (is much more politically and socially up my alley too) and housing seems CHEAPER than here in Ohio even, let alone in S. Cali.


246 posted on 03/18/2005 6:48:12 AM PST by RockinRight (Electing Hillary president would be akin to giving a drunken teenage boy keys to the Porsche)
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To: Clemenza

So will LA elect a Giuliani for mayor at some point?


247 posted on 03/18/2005 6:50:02 AM PST by RockinRight (Electing Hillary president would be akin to giving a drunken teenage boy keys to the Porsche)
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To: BurbankKarl

248 posted on 03/18/2005 6:51:00 AM PST by timestax
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To: DaiHuy

A lot of LAers are moving to Vegas too, it seems.

While Las Vegas has it's own issues, its not a bad town overall IMHO. A friend of mine moved out there last year from Akron, OH and said that 90% of the people she talks to are from Los Angeles or San Francisco.


249 posted on 03/18/2005 6:52:26 AM PST by RockinRight (Electing Hillary president would be akin to giving a drunken teenage boy keys to the Porsche)
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To: kittymyrib

Ohio sucks too. No room here. Try the Cayman Islands.


250 posted on 03/18/2005 6:53:28 AM PST by RockinRight (Electing Hillary president would be akin to giving a drunken teenage boy keys to the Porsche)
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To: Vision Thing

When the CA real estate bubble bursts, a lot of people are going to lose a lot of money. However, a lot of other people will make out like bandits.


251 posted on 03/18/2005 6:54:21 AM PST by RockinRight (Electing Hillary president would be akin to giving a drunken teenage boy keys to the Porsche)
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bookmarked for later


252 posted on 03/18/2005 6:59:19 AM PST by Rytwyng (we're here, we're Huguenots, get used to us)
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To: RockinRight

You got that right. The weather HAS sucked. We still have some 3' deep snow left and it's Spring. Not a decent thaw ALL Winter. :-(


253 posted on 03/18/2005 7:07:42 AM PST by drt1
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To: SamAdams76

Quick comparison

Weather:

Akron OH-

July - Average High 83 Average Low 62 4.00 inches of rain
Can be as hot as 100 or as cool as upper 40s on a cool night-usually quite humid.

January - Average High 32 Average Low 17 Average Snowfall 12 inches
Wild changes are common-can warm into the 60s on brief occasions or get as cold as 20 below

Los Angeles:

July - Average High 75-83 (depends on distance from coast) Average Low 62 generally no rain Can be as hot as 100 or in the 50s at night-low humidity

January - Average High 65 Average Low 47 Average Rainfall 4 inches

But-look at this also:

If you make $65000 a year in Akron-to move to LA and keep the same lifestyle you need to make about $115000-and that doesn't even consider housing costs really. In the Akron metro area the average home price was about $110,000 and in LA its over $300,000-and that $300,000 gets you a smaller home in LA than $110,000 gets you in Akron.

LA has 17 murders per 100,000 people. Akron had 17 overall with a population of 220,000-or under 8 per 100,000-half LA's rate.

I don't have exact data but that's pretty close based on the last reports I've seen.

I am not sure if I would trade affordable housing and a better lifestyle overall for good weather.


254 posted on 03/18/2005 7:09:40 AM PST by RockinRight (Electing Hillary president would be akin to giving a drunken teenage boy keys to the Porsche)
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To: Clemenza

Add Vegas to that list.


255 posted on 03/18/2005 7:11:15 AM PST by RockinRight (Electing Hillary president would be akin to giving a drunken teenage boy keys to the Porsche)
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To: Neanderthal
The Olympics from Fox island?

No, but a good guess. Fox Island is nice.

The photo I posted was from the coastline near the Dungeness Spit; I'm a bit eastward along that shoreline.

256 posted on 03/18/2005 7:11:48 AM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: L,TOWM

I don't own a home, and at the current prices, it doesn't seem like a good investment. No one can afford homes at these prices as we'll see for sure if/when the bubble bursts.


257 posted on 03/18/2005 7:17:14 AM PST by sixmil (In Free Trade We Trust)
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To: Clemenza

I did it for about a week...I'm from Riverside County, moved to Upland for a job, then got a job in West LA (near UCLA)I moved to West LA after a week of commuting from Upland...its CRAZY. I have NO idea how people do it.

By the way - hope your new job improves..I know how hard it is to start over in a new state. Hang in there, it does get better!


258 posted on 03/18/2005 7:21:59 AM PST by FeliciaCat
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To: BurbankKarl

Im proud to say, I lived in Van Nuys until January 17th. I was a California resident for 14 years and now IM FREE the bonds of Kalifornistan. I am now a proud resident of Utah and wouldnt go back to California for anything.


259 posted on 03/18/2005 7:25:32 AM PST by SwankyC (1st Bn 11th Marines Semper Fi)
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To: drt1

I snapped when in my last few days there I got a $111 jaywalking ticket.


260 posted on 03/18/2005 7:27:20 AM PST by SwankyC (1st Bn 11th Marines Semper Fi)
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