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Governor says goal is to remove 15,000 polluting vehicles from road (Silly Schwarzenegger Again!!!)
Stockton Record ^
| 3/17/05
| Hank Shaw
Posted on 03/17/2005 9:14:29 AM PST by SierraWasp
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To: Andy from Beaverton
The problem isn't the new vehicles, it's the very old ones that don't have to be inspected. This will hurt the working poor in the California inner-cities and minorities. Seriously. A lot of working poor folks drive "buckets," cars that barely get them places despite their horrid condition.
If RINOLD would focus on cutting state spending and cutting taxes (and for the feds to do the same) the working poor and minorities would have money to buy newer, cleaner cars.
To: forester; Carry_Okie; farmfriend; calcowgirl
"I am not totally opposed to this...maybe I am missing something here...you seam to be little more outraged then usual....fill me in."Ok, forester... Here's the deal! We fought the Wilson Administration with it's MTBE and it's support for GANG-GREEN's numerous and varied attempts at usurping land-use control from local elected representatives for 8 long years!
Then we contiued the fight with the help of one consistent conservative media voiced out of the Bay Area... Melanie Morgan on KSFO who organized protests at the Crapitol against MTBE, SMOG-CHECK-II and even started the historic CA Recall election signature gathering with Sean Steele of the CAGOP!!!
Now the Recall gets hi-jacked by an aledged Republican who puts back in our faces what we fought Davis on (an WON) and here comes this idiot putting it all back in our faces to the power of 10!!!
And to make it worse... Some of us who protested at the Crapitol could see this coming on Arnold's campaign website, yet we have to put up with FReepers, including the owner of the site, telling all of us we'd be better off with this guy! And look what's happening!! FReepers standing around picking their danged noses like nothing is happening!!!
It's MADDENING!!!
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posted on
03/17/2005 10:39:28 AM PST
by
SierraWasp
(GovernMental EnvironMental Parasitic Pissants perpetually tormenting America Progress!!!)
To: SierraWasp; calcowgirl; Andy from Beaverton
I can think of one million, fifty-three thousand, nine hundred thirty-five reasons for this policy.
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I drive my '69 Dodge Power Wagon MAYBE 500 miles per year, half of which is on my own property. It isn't worth getting a new truck, but I can't do without it.
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posted on
03/17/2005 11:04:07 AM PST
by
Carry_Okie
(The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by central planning.)
To: kaktuskid
I stated that there should be exemptions for historic vehicles.
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posted on
03/17/2005 11:06:18 AM PST
by
forester
(An economy that is overburdened by government eventually results in collapse)
To: SierraWasp
RE: It's MADDENING!!!
I remember the rallies at the capitol building. I remember the Sac B S condemning the rallies as KSFO promotions taking advantage of us low IQ radio dopes. Years later the B S acted as if they discovered the hazards of MTBE.
Secondly, Schwarzenkennedy's left hand does not know what his right hand is dong. He favors DLs for ILLEGAL immigrants -- what the hell are they going to drive? There's a state program to pay for their car insurance already, is there going to be a program to buy ILLEGAL aliens late model cars? No doubt funded by fines paid by citizens who can't afford anyting but an old car!
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posted on
03/17/2005 11:12:11 AM PST
by
WilliamofCarmichael
(MSM Fraudcasters are skid marks on journalism's clean shorts.)
To: Andy from Beaverton
I have a 1974 F100 that I keep registered, licensed and insured just in case I want to drive it; I put less than 300 miles on it last year and have only driven it 22 miles this year.
I keep it mainly to piss off the local codes people and have my phone number on both sides of it.
My wife's Buick has never shown more than a trace of HC or CO on the annual tests; it is maintained in a state of tune.
The F100 doesn't have to be tested.
The registration costs the same for each.
Free money for the state and the county.
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posted on
03/17/2005 11:16:48 AM PST
by
Old Professer
(A man's conscience is like his garden, it is his and his alone to tend.)
To: Jokelahoma
That's right, take the 80 year old geezer's beat up 71 Chevy away from him today and next you'll be demanding that 85 year old geezers don't have a right to wobble their 50 year old Schwinns down the road; when he's reduced to walking, make it a crime for anyone to use the right-of-way who can't make a pace of 5 FPS walking with his cane waving back and forth for balance.
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posted on
03/17/2005 11:21:11 AM PST
by
Old Professer
(A man's conscience is like his garden, it is his and his alone to tend.)
To: Logical me
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posted on
03/17/2005 11:23:20 AM PST
by
Old Professer
(A man's conscience is like his garden, it is his and his alone to tend.)
To: rolling_stone; SierraWasp; calcowgirl
they suspended it in 2002 because of lack of funds... That should be the issue: do we as a society have enough money to fund all of this stuff? Where is the issue of spending priorities in all of this? I personally think this is a better idea for reducing pollution then two thirds of the other crap that CARB has passed (like MTBE).
Because I don't see the pollution issue going away, I might as well support stuff that makes sense...instead of being against everything.
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posted on
03/17/2005 11:29:00 AM PST
by
forester
(An economy that is overburdened by government eventually results in collapse)
To: Jokelahoma; SierraWasp
So which is it ? Either smokey pollutey cars have 'no business' on the road, or if I slap a 'historical' tag on it its OK ?
Who are you to decide whether or not my 'classic' is worthy of a life ? If you want to throw sh!t at others, be ready for me to find fault with your ride...
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posted on
03/17/2005 11:29:07 AM PST
by
Gilbo_3
(Patience is a virtue, but it aint one of mine !!!)
To: Logical me; SierraWasp
So, what in the he@@ is your suggestion? Stop tailgating ???
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posted on
03/17/2005 11:32:36 AM PST
by
Gilbo_3
(Patience is a virtue, but it aint one of mine !!!)
To: pepsionice
There are plenty of those limping, broken down rust buckets parked in my neighborhood, all owned by ILLEGALS. Arnold could hit two birds with one stone by insisting on deporting illegals.
To: Logical me
That car was probably being driven by a welfare recipient because the local welfare department and transit authority discovered it is truly much less expensive for the taxpayers to gift the "client" a beater like that, than to require the "Dial a Ride" vans/mini busses to drive them to their new "workfare" job!!!
So, what in the he@@ is your suggestion? (snort!)
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posted on
03/17/2005 11:38:04 AM PST
by
SierraWasp
(GovernMental EnvironMental Parasitic Pissants perpetually tormenting America Progress!!!)
To: llama hunter
I don't know if this is good or bad, but you never see beaters in Europe... You do, but they're rarely as bad. In Germany at least, there's something called the TÜV, which is an inspection and smog check on steroids, far more picky than in any US state, including unauthorized accessories (which is why you don't see LEDs and neons all over German cars). It's required every, IIRC, two years, and it's a big deal for car owners. So much so that used car ads show the date of the last TÜV, with those cars with the most time left until the next TÜV being the most desirable.
So basically if you see a junker with German plates spewing smoke, it's got max two years left unless someone fixes it. At that point it'll be junked or sold off to Eastern Europe.
To: Carry_Okie
I'm sure Arnold's HumVs are exempt too.
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posted on
03/17/2005 11:49:04 AM PST
by
farmfriend
( Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill?!?)
To: pepsionice
I don't think Schwarzenegger ever meant to smash historic cars
Yes he does. An employee for the states housing, transportation and jobs department said at a smart growth conference recently that there should be no cars older that 5 years old on the road, especially if they are luxury cars. The little communist said if people can afford to buy a porsche they can afford to buy one every year. He also went on to say they should be crushed, so there isn't even a tail light left. These people run our government and they are advising the governor!!!
The state government is absolutely full of car-hating people who are now working to decommission roads. There is a road across the creek from me, that the county has designated for "decommissioning" . This means never repairing it, don't fix bridges or landslides, and eventually the road will be impassible. The homes on the road have been selected for decommissioning also, but their owners won't find out until they apply for a permit to remodel.
In our county, the county government now calls areas that are not withing "urban boundaries" wildlands. These wildlands actually are fairly suburban fairly densely populated. But by designating areas outside the urban growth boundaries wildlands, then the wildlands project plans can be implemented.
http://www.wildlandscpr.org/roads/whats_wrong.html
What's Wrong with Roads in Wildlands?
> Roads harm fish and wildlife by destroying habitat
> Roads spread weeds like Scotch Broom and knapweed
> Collapsing roads and blown-out culverts cause erosion and water pollution
To: SierraWasp; Carry_Okie
Time for Carry_Okie to repost his wonderful graphs on the NRDC and their funding sources etc. BTW, I'm going to be sending those to the people I talked with the last few days.
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posted on
03/17/2005 5:36:50 PM PST
by
farmfriend
( Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill?!?)
To: SierraWasp; abbi_normal_2; Ace2U; adam_az; Alamo-Girl; Alas; alfons; alphadog; AMDG&BVMH; amom; ...
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posted on
03/17/2005 5:40:39 PM PST
by
farmfriend
( Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill?!?)
To: scooter2
Does this mean AHHHNOLD is willing to get rid of his Hummer? Probably not - it wouldn't look good if he divorced Maria; and he'd have to then PAY for the service..
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posted on
03/17/2005 6:19:30 PM PST
by
solitas
(So what if I support a platform that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.3.7)
To: calcowgirl
Having a vehicle...isn't a right Let me guess then, owning a car is a privilege bestowed by government? We are so lucky to have such a nice government.
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