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Modern Day Slavery
www.johnecoleman.org ^ | March 1995 | Raymie Lynch

Posted on 03/16/2005 8:26:30 AM PST by mr_griz

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To: edcoil
Well, my understanding was that it wasn’t necessarily “slaves” doing the backbreaking work – it was the indentured servants.

That, from my grandfather referring to his dad and grandfather (who was pretty old at the time). They had their trip to America paid for in return for some amount of time (I recall 10 years) working a peanut farm.

Whoever owned the place had paid for and owned the slaves – but he only had them (great and great-great grandfather) for a short period of time and evidently wanted to get as much work out of them as possible.

My grandfather also further claimed that after emancipation many of the slaves didn’t have anything else to do or anywhere else to go and stayed right where they were, doing essentially the same things under the same conditions – in fact, many of their descendants are, to this day, in the same town.

That was his claim – they might not have been “free” to do whatever they wanted (but then, neither were the indentured) – they had been purchased and were owned – but people didn’t run around beating damned-expensive slaves for giggles. And, that they had a better deal (at least during the period of servitude) than the indentured servants did.

For whatever that’s worth. This all in the general vicinity of what is currently Abbeville, AL.

21 posted on 03/16/2005 9:02:31 AM PST by Who dat?
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To: mr_griz

Absolutely brilliant!

Rice and Powell are perfect examples of those who escaped only to be scorned by their own.


22 posted on 03/16/2005 9:06:00 AM PST by ryan71 (Speak softly and carry a BIG STICK)
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23 posted on 03/16/2005 9:10:24 AM PST by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: jriemer
Thanks :)

Here, this is for your book,


24 posted on 03/16/2005 9:16:05 AM PST by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? http://www.visualops.com/patch.html)
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To: Who dat?

It was both slaves and indentured. I read a book in the 80's about Africa. When a Caption VanDorf, a dutchman came around the cape of good hope to trade found the Zulu's tribe. The Zulu's were/are famous slave traders. They would attack villages throughout Africa taking slaves.

When the met VanDorf, they wanted to trade for his silks and european goods. The only thing they had to trade were, there slaves which VanDorf took in trade and took them to Brazil where they were sold as slaves.

They worked there way north to the upcoming Americas as slaves stayed as slaves sold to south for work.

There has never been a Zulu as a slave. In fact in Africa today, Zulus run everything as managers or formans of all work and do not work for any other tribe member.

The fact is slaves here were slaves to the Zulu's and never free people enslaved unlike the white slave trade when europeans were taken off ships and sold as slaves in Egypt and africa but that is a different story.

Slavery has existed since mankind and I am glad that America got rid of it but it should not pay any price today for doing the right thing.


25 posted on 03/16/2005 9:24:05 AM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Zavien Doombringer

All your bucks are belong to us


26 posted on 03/16/2005 9:36:31 AM PST by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: mr_griz
Interesting concept....,
Except the scale is so far below the reality its almost childish..

The Slavery... is slavery by government(socialism) and has nothing at all to do with race or even class..

The Owners.... are not all democrat, republican or even AMERICAN..

The Overseer's... are not all of any race or class...

And the field slaves... are any that receive remuneration from federal, state or local governments.. especially contractors.. far beyond "'civil service field workers"... Lawyers, doctors, accountants, the academics, lobbyists, the political apparatchiks and many many more "nuances" or "niches" of complicitcy that gain livelihood from "socialism".. And that don't account the true believers in socialism which may not be on the plantation at all.. they are another class of malfeasants..

**- This history dude has totally missed the trolley.. except that while "hoeing cotton" he "IS" considering other things than plantation life.. And thats a start.. Could be he himself is a recipient of government largess... probably is..

27 posted on 03/16/2005 9:57:08 AM PST by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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Say what? This analogy doesn't work at all for Republicans, one of whose planks is self-reliance.

When you start with the idea that the Party itself is 'The Master' then the 'planks' or party ideology are one of the things which serves to tie an individual to the party. Next throw out the idea that only a certain race can be a slave, then the rest of the analogy works just fine for the Republican Party, or any party for that matter.
28 posted on 03/16/2005 12:04:27 PM PST by contemplator
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