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Can Papers End the Free Ride Online?
NY Times ^ | March 14, 2005 | KATHARINE Q. SEELYE

Posted on 03/14/2005 6:04:15 AM PST by Drango

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To: Drango
Newspapers sell usable, credible information. They don't sell print on dead trees. ( Well, they do, but it's not their real product)

What information am I willing to pay for that a newspaper could make money on? What information is my neighbor willing to pay for? What information do I want that makes it worth subscribing to a paper so I can have online privileges?

"A" Section stuff -- I can get better stuff free and online. I'm not going to pay for it. This almost has to be a freebee. "B" Section -- local news. What's going on in town -- here do a New York Times list -- throw in everything including the kitchen sink. A computer can sift though everyone's individual taste -- "classical music", "outside, Sunday" "Church," "dinner, art," and "park play children." There's not space in a print edition to list all events in a town, but there plenty of room online. Without the filter of "what the editor likes," a communities social life can start reflecting the real values of the community.

Online neighborhood chats -- similar to FreeRepublic openness -- ideas for a better community. A place where local reporters can gleen what the local people are concerned about. It's popular here -- it could be a local "must have".

Some will pay for local crime news. What crimes are being committed in my neighborhood and at what time of day, by who?

Homes for sale. A search engine set up so the newest listings can be found, or homes by neighborhood, or by price, or number of bedrooms, or school district.

Sales of any kind in the paper. Would advertisers like to list additional information about their products online for an additional small fee? Classifieds. Again, what's newest, what's closest, what's the cost for all '98 Honda's? Is there an online picture to go with the classified ad?

What's being served at school for lunch, what's the bus schedule, what's the science homework for your 10 year old. ( OK, that last one might be too hard -- then again, some schools might want the privilege of sending the information.)

How's traffic. Coordinate with the local radio station. What jobs are being offered and where? Sort by wages, by community.

Online backup of the newspaper can give readers more information. And the backup ad information could give the newspapers more revenue. Selling a used car? "Six lines in the classified, one price, and a picture on the online site will cost you another price." Department stores doing a "white sale"? Run the ad in the paper, run the details on the paper's web site for a small additional cost. The paper collects for and runs both.

If the reader subscribes to the paper, visits to the paper's web site are free. If not, there's a charge. Make it useful, they will come, they will pay, and they'll come back. Make it an ego trip to the higher glorification of the writers and they'll come and not come back.

The online areas that get the most hits are supporting the paper and need to be expanded. The areas that are not getting hits can be dumped or improved. Paper should advertise restaurants in the paper, and offer the menu, prices and specials online. etc, etc. etc. I can think of many more ways ... as can every freeper.

41 posted on 03/14/2005 10:08:08 AM PST by GOPJ (Liberals haven't had a new idea in 40 years.)
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To: Drango
But when it comes to online news, they are happy to read it but loath to pay for it.

They're apparently willing to pay what it is worth. Which is nothing.

42 posted on 03/14/2005 10:28:33 AM PST by dirtboy (Drooling moron since 1998...)
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To: Montfort
the same jobs that you can find for free on Monster.

Beware of Monster.com selling your email address to spammers! Open a new hotmail account and use that before you go to Monster. I was spammed literally for years after I went there and put up my resume'.

Using Monster is certainly not free!

43 posted on 03/14/2005 10:46:58 AM PST by Siegfried
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To: Raycpa

Sad that the Washington Times does not have national distribution like USA today. Now there's a NEWSPAPER!

With the demise of the NYT - think of the trees that will be saved;) Greenpeace should be ecstatic;)


44 posted on 03/14/2005 11:53:24 AM PST by highflight (from a distance - buzzards might appear as eagles.)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

I know you meant Pulp Fiction ;)


45 posted on 03/14/2005 11:54:25 AM PST by highflight (from a distance - buzzards might appear as eagles.)
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To: Drango

What was it that Mom used to say about getting milk and buying the cow?


46 posted on 03/14/2005 1:04:51 PM PST by George Smiley (This tagline deliberately targeted journalists.)
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To: George Smiley
Your Mom said that? In my case it was my frat brothers, none of who were getting any milk, trying to act like they were getting some...
47 posted on 03/14/2005 1:10:25 PM PST by Drango (All my ideas, good or bad, are stolen from other FReepers)
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To: Grendel9

You talking to me?

Sorry, couldnt resist.

Cheers,

knews hound


48 posted on 03/14/2005 3:11:26 PM PST by knews_hound (Out of the NIC ,into the Router, out to the Cloud....Nothing but 'Net)
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To: Drango

I always thought newspapers made most of their income from advertising and that the actual sale of the newspaper was a break even situation.


49 posted on 03/14/2005 3:14:30 PM PST by Casloy
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To: aculeus
"Bill Keller, executive editor of The New York Times, said of relying on advertising as the sole revenue stream: "My main concern is that, however we distribute our work, we have to generate the money to pay for it. The advertising model looks appealing now, but do we want our future to depend on that single source of revenue? What happens if advertising goes flat? What happens when somebody develops software to filter out advertising - TiVo for the Web? What happens then? Waaaaaahhhhhhh!"

Good luck with that suckerscription-based ecomodel, ****head.

Bugmenot

50 posted on 03/14/2005 6:32:49 PM PST by StAnDeliver
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To: aculeus
"Make my day, Sulzberger. I can't wait to flush what remains of your paper out of my system."

Deftly explaining how "Pinch" got his butt-ugly nickname...

51 posted on 03/14/2005 6:35:22 PM PST by StAnDeliver
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To: Drango

The reason newspapers hate and advertisers love web ads is that you actually SEE the clickthrough rates. Ads in a newspaper are useless for those purposes without a coupon. With web ads, you KNOW there's a difference in your response on your site.

Print ads are WAAAAAAAY overpriced. And people are foolish if they pay for web ads that charge by anything but the clickthru.


52 posted on 03/14/2005 8:19:23 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (The South will rise again? Hell, we ever get states' rights firmly back in place, the CSA has risen!)
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To: StAnDeliver

bump


53 posted on 03/14/2005 8:21:37 PM PST by GOPJ (Liberals haven't had a new idea in 40 years.)
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To: Drango
The New York Times on the Web, which is owned by The New York Times Company, has been considering charging for years

DO IT NOW!!!!!


54 posted on 03/14/2005 9:33:49 PM PST by sevry
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To: Drango; Jim Robinson
This might make a great FR poll question:

Should the NY Times begin charging for all of its online web content? Yea or nay!

55 posted on 03/14/2005 9:36:25 PM PST by sevry
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To: StAnDeliver

To get a glimpse of the NY Slimes' future go to a local bar or restaurant. Just inside the door you'll see stack of free fish wrappers with stupid articles, written by dope-smoking liberals, in front and sleazy ads in the back.


56 posted on 03/14/2005 10:04:35 PM PST by StockAyatollah
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To: Drango

It was one thing to buy a newspaper and throw it out when done. But now getting the paper is a burden when done i have to stack it in a bin so i can tie it up, store it for 2 weeks till it gets picked up and worst of all, carry the bundles to the curb and hope they get picked up without being rejected because the stack was 3 sheets to high. I used to read 4 or 5 papers a day. To Tie, stack , store and lug 70 papers to the curb is not worth my time or space.


57 posted on 03/14/2005 10:10:35 PM PST by KingNo155
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To: GOPJ

bump


58 posted on 03/21/2005 9:21:11 AM PST by GOPJ (Liberals haven't had a new idea in 40 years.)
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