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Croatia faces EU delay over war crimes manhunt
EUbusiness ^ | 12/03/2005

Posted on 03/13/2005 1:52:16 PM PST by Lukasz

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To: DTA

The blood is just as red if it's Bosnian Serbs or Serbs from Serbia proper doing the killing. Same goes for Croats from Lika or Bosna, what's the difference? You're picking gnat shit out of pepper with that one.
Something tells me you knew that already.


21 posted on 03/15/2005 1:33:41 PM PST by Joey Silvera
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These guys would go home without knowing who's on pass or leave and they're also well-versed in their opponents'-that's more than one-military doctrine? Were they smart idiots?


22 posted on 03/15/2005 1:39:21 PM PST by Joey Silvera
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To: Joey Silvera
And what was Croat and Bosnian military doctrine-fighting a vastly superior enemy with hunting rifles, molotov cocktails and homemade grenades(pre-1994, anyway)?

You are a big liar or an incredible ignoramus. Have you ever heard of the Croat-Muslim war which was at its height in 1993 in large areas of Bosnia? A Croatian site reports that the Muslims used heavy weapons on them starting in October 1992. Here is a few examples of their fighting and ethnic cleansing of each other:

The Croat-Muslim War: A Chronology

October 1992

At the beginning of the October of 1992 the skirmishes started between Croatians and Muslims in the municipality of Novi Travnik, in the villages of Senkovci, Sinokos and Donje Pecine, Opara, as well as in the city. In attack on the villages, Muslims have targeted the commander of HVO in Jajce, Stjepan Blazevic and President of HVO in Jajce, Nikola Bilic. Fifteen HVO solders have been killed in the Muslim attack. That was the first occasion that Muslims used heavy artillery against their Croatian neighbors. Muslims have attacked the HVO command post and destroyed the HVO Field Hospital in Travnik. They set two buildings, almost exclusively inhabited by Croats, on fire. One of the obvious targets of the attack was the gas station in the city, and after they failed to take it, they set it on fire as well. As a result of the attack the city has been divided, the northern part of the city being controlled by Muslims while the southern part came under Croat control. In these attacks eight HVO soldiers have been killed and sixteen were injured. The Muslim casualties included thirty-seven injured, that have had been transported to Bugojno's hospital while the number of killed was not known.

April 16th , 1993

At 8 am, the members of B&H Army under the command of Zulfikar Ali Spaga called "Zuka", Hasan Hakalovic and Sejdo Padalovic, have started the attack on the civilian Croat population of village of Trusina from the directions of villages of Bare, Kljesi, Osoric and Sahici. After the artillery barrage, about fifty members of the Muslim forces (majority were wearing black uniforms and black pieces of cloth striped around their heads and arms) entered the village. They massacred sixteen Croat civilians and six captured HVO soldiers. The Croat civilians have been executed at the very spot where they have been caught (in their houses, barns, fields). The Croat soldiers surrendered after the Muslim soldiers threatened them with the execution of their captured wives. Immediately after the surrender, the Muslim soldiers executed them.

June 10th, 1993

In the town of Vitez, around 8:45 p.m., one single shell was fired from the area under the control of Muslim Army. It landed two meters from the bench that was the meeting point of the local kids, Croat as well as Muslim. That day, there were no Muslim children around. It has been theorized that their parents were notified about the impending attack, and that the projectile was navigated.Five Croat children were killed on the spot, while three more died in the hospital.

June 15th, 1993

The Parish of Kraljeva Sutjeska, containing of 26 villages, is virtually wiped out from the face of the earth by the attacking Muslim and Mujahedin forces. Everything that was Croat (Christian) was pillaged, set on fire or vandalized. In the early morning of June 13th 1993, around 10,000 Muslim soldiers attacked in the well-planed operation with overwhelming force the Croat defensive lines of town of Kakanj. After the Muslim attack, which successfully pierced the Croat lines, 15,000 Croat civilians and defenders have started their withdrawal towards town of Vares, still a free town in Central Bosnia. Under the heavy shelling and sniper fire, in columns over 10 kilometers long (cca. 6 miles) children, elderly, sick and injured reached the town of Vares. The locals helped them find the shelter in the factories, restaurants, and private homes.

October 1st - 5th, 1993

"…Using the absence of the HVO forces that were helping the evacuation of 6,000 ethnically cleansed Croats from the town of Kakanj, Muslim Army started with the coordinated attack on the municipality and city of Vares. Muslims were targeting only Croat villages that were already fully encircled, deprived of any humanitarian help, cutting the communications and using the civilians as "live shields….". The consequences of the attack were catastrophic for the Croats residing in Vares. 10,000 Croats from Vares and around 10,000 Croats from the area of Kakanj ultimately were expelled from Vares. During the Croat-Muslim war cca. 50,000 Bosnian Muslims have been expelled from the area under HVO control, while the number of Croats ethnically cleansed from the Bosnian Muslim Army held territories is around 150,000.


23 posted on 03/15/2005 1:47:46 PM PST by joan
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>>>>>>>>The blood is just as red if it's Bosnian Serbs or Serbs from Serbia proper doing the killing. Same goes for Croats from Lika or Bosna, what's the difference? You're picking gnat shit out of pepper with that one.<<<<

Let me put it this way. When Croatian Army invades Bosnia and kill Bosnian Serbs in Sijekovci village this is international conflict.

When Bosnian Croats kill Bosnian Serbs it is civil war.

24 posted on 03/15/2005 7:12:47 PM PST by DTA
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