Dallas billboard asks: 'Why Islam?'

WFAA ^ | 3/11/2005 | Ron Harris

[Bennett46]

Sorry, but we only give out that information on a need to know basis. Way above your pay grade.

[4.1O dana super trac pak]

That is some wild stuff. I wonder how many participants are from the US.

[Smartaleck]

"Sorry, but we only give out that information on a need to know basis."

How does this relate to post #186 to which you replied?

[Smartaleck]

"Come on now, don't duck and run, finish what you started."

Perhaps sometime when you seem to have a continuity of thought.

In the mean time why don't you run along over to
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1362601/posts?page=1

and straighten out all those who seem to be cheering on the Muslims who will kill us?

[Modernman]

"In fact, the Qur'an contains absolutely no internal inconsistencies whatsoever."

What the heck is this guy talking about...for starters, and its a big one, they deny the Deity of Christ....

Technically-speaking, that does not qualify as an internal inconsistency.

[PigRigger]

Read the context of what I responded to...

[Modernman]

I read it. Whatever other inconsistencies the Koran might contain, failing to recognize the divinity of Jesus is not an internal inconsistency.

[William Terrell]

You are all over the board, hoss. Get your stories and beliefs straight. On the one hand, you apollogize for Islam and on the other you cite Locke and Burke. The principles are not compatible.

[PigRigger]

"Perhaps sometime when you seem to have a continuity of thought."

Continuity is very clear...You stated that there is equivalence between the dictates of Islam and Christianity.

I have yet to hear you respond in a manner that would back up that statement.

My point is, where Christianity was used in a context to commit horrible crimes, it was in contradiction to what the New Testament stated. As for Islam, those that wish it to be interpreted as a peaceful religion will have to overcome what the Koran asks its followers to do. Where a reformation was easily defended in the Christian faith, Muslims who wish to pursue an Islamic reformation will find it incredibly indefensible when argued from a Jihadist perspective.

I hope Islam experiences a reformation. However, I understand how much more difficult it will be for the average Muslim to defend that position than it was for Luther to defend his.

Thus, there is no equivalence between the two. Christianity is based on loving one another, even your enemies, at the risk of losing your own mortal life (as stated by Christ time and time again). While Islam, as dictated by the Koran (from the words of Mohammad), commends the killing of those who do not submit to it.

Again, for continuity sake, point out where the Christian New Testament asks its followers to kill those who do not embrace Christ.

You cannot, because it does not exist. That is at the heart of the debate you started.

[PigRigger]

Mod - Maybe I interpreted the original post wrong. I attributed the statement to indicate that the Koran, and its teachings, are consistent with either Judaism or Christianity. That is, what is stated in those religions is embraced in the Koran.

If that is what the poster meant, than it is simply not true.

If the post was addressing the Koran only, I agree with you.

[William Terrell]

You are not answering the question. This indicates a hicough in your logic. Is a Muslim that doesn't follow the commands of his holy book a Muslim or Infidel?

The answer to this question goes to the heart of your assertion that there exist "moderate" Muslims, who do not believe in spreading Islam at the point of a sword and deceit.

Either answer the quest clearly, or don't bother to respons at all. Or, you can tell me the name of the point between "mulsim" and "infidel".

[sheik yerbouty]

Why TROP? For the insanity and death.

[Bennett46]

You asked: 'Who's us?'

I answered: 'We only give out that information on a need to know basis. Way above your pay grade.'

[PigRigger]

William -

Form the Jihadist perspective, you are right. Muslims who do not follow that dictates to the letter are Infidels.

Millions of Muslims have been slaughtered or put into slavery for that very reason.

I understand what the other side is attempting to point out...that Islam can change based on how it is interpreted. Unfortunately, what they fail to realize is that it is much harder to deny what is written than it is to use it as a defense.

The Jihadists use the Koran's actual words to defend their crime. The reformist minded Muslims are attempting to state that the words should not be taken literally, rather they should be embraced in a spiritual manner.

Unfortunately, the Jihadists have the Koran on their side......

[gakrak]

Yes and we know from their own sacred Koran that:
"The five oldest and most trusted Islamic sources don't portray Muhammad as a great and godly man. They confirm that he was a thief, liar, assassin, mass murderer, terrorist, warmonger, and rapist. He authorized deception, assassinations, torture, slavery, and genocide." Now there is a religion to hang your hat on. Amen.

[William Terrell]

My point is that Islam recognizes only two states of being: Mulsim and infidel. There are blatent passages in the Koran that outright state to procedure of spreading Islam, and handling "muslims" and "infidels". To try to interpret them otherwise is laughable.

If one is not a Muslim, one is an infidel. It is that simple. One who professes Islam but does not follow its dictates is not Islamic, therefore infidel.

I prefer shades of gray in a murderous cult, but Islam, by its book and custom, does not. There is not such thing as a moderate Muslim; there are only those who have not been squeezed to get off the dime.

I'm going to unbag my Urim and Thummim and make a prophesy. The moment that Muslims in the US feel that their numbers are high enough, you will see the mask come off in the twinkling of an eye.

[ArmyTeach]

Post 103...and the black sheep reflects on and tarnishes the reputation of the family. Does the family condone, pardon, or in anyway facilitate the 'black sheep?' I'm very much of the opinion that the Muslim community within our borders does just that.

[Zivasmate]

Given that kind of foundation, it's a wonder there are any decent ones at all (are there?) coming from this "peace loving religion."

[D-Generation X]

All the help we give to Muslims will be used against us!

The Shias in Iraq are waiting for us to leave and then they will hand the country over to Iran.

Please stop defending the Satanic cult known as Islam!

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